From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: JohnF Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: beginner questions Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380113920 14700 80.91.229.3 (25 Sep 2013 12:58:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:58:40 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 25 14:58:45 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VOofz-0004Oo-O6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:58:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52364 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOofz-0002dU-Cf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:58:43 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!panix!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 30 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1380095731 14372 166.84.1.3 (25 Sep 2013 07:55:31 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:55:31 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/2.0.0-20110823 ("Ardenistiel") (UNIX) (NetBSD/5.1.2 (i386)) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201279 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:58:26 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93559 Archived-At: Can't use my favorite editor any more (long story, don't ask:), and decided to go with emacs. Of course, there are zillions of tutorials, etc, but most are almost-infinitely wordy, whereas I'm comfortable with editors and basically want a cheat sheet. But even they're usually too long, with lots of arcane commands that I'm sure I'll eventually want to know, but not while I'm still trying to remember how to cut-and-paste. So I started making my own forkosh.com/emacs.txt but am having difficulty zeroing in on some info. Most importantly, how to "turn off everything". For example, no html help, e.g., I don't want to see stuff or

stuff

underlined. And really annoying, I don't want the cursor to momentarily jump back to ( after I type (stuff). Ditto , etc. Very distracting (to me). Basically, I just want a dumb editor in the sense that it shouldn't think it knows >>anything<< about the language/syntax I'm writing in, regardless of filename extension. It should just see a stream of uninterpreted characters, unless it sees C- or M- (or something with special emacs significance). And various and sundry minor questions, e.g., what exactly is the undo scope of C-/ and how do you just undo "last keystroke", and no more than that (if last keystroke was a C-y then, okay, undo the entire yank)? Finally, have I missed some tutorial/cheat-sheet-type info designed for my kind of needs -- already familiar with various languages and editors, and just wants to get down to work using emacs? Just wants the 100 or so most used commands "telegraphed", without more extra words than necessary? Thanks, -- John Forkosh ( mailto: j@f.com where j=john and f=forkosh )