From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: peder@news.klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs author stats Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 10:46:51 +0200 Organization: Persons in a Position to Know, inc. 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X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185849 Archived-At: On Thu, Apr 23 2015 at 23:10, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > To send a patch, you need to clone the repository, develop and test > the patch, send it for review, update it several times according to > comments, rebase it as master gets new commits, etc. All of which > involves the VCS, and so many people said they will not consider > becoming contributors unless we switched to Git. I am not a committer, but I have contributed a patch or two. The basis for my contributions has always been git-controlled. Even before the official switchover, I used the git mirror of the bzr tree. I have no desire to learn more VC systems than I absolutely have to, and these days, git is a must for almost everything. But had the git mirror not existed, I'm convinced I could have muddled through the necessary cut'n'paste to download the bzr tree. What I'm saying is that, as a non-committer and infrequent contributor, Emacs' choice of VC system was not a big factor in my decision to contribute to Emacs. Had bzr been the only choice, and had it proved irksome to use, I might not have continued to contribute, but that was never an issue, as the git mirror was perfectly adequate. Compared to the hassle of copyright assignment, Emacs' choice of VC was lost in the noise. And I did not find the copyright process especially burdensome, just a bit time consuming. (What do we want? Instant gratification! When do we want it? NOW!) I was in favour of the move to git, because it seemed from the outside like the right thing to do, but the impact on me was very close to zero. And I didn't voice my opinion at the time because I felt it wasn't my decision to make, in part exactly because I was not a frequent contributor, and knew that the outcome would not influence my contribution frequency at all. The things preventing me from contributing more have nothing to do with versioning systems. It is partly that annoying thing called life which my family insists I engage in occasionally, but even more, it's a distinct lack of itches to scratch. Emacs mostly does what I need really, really well already. So thanks, all of you! ...Peder... -- I wish a new life awaited _me_ in some off-world colony.