From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6455: 23.2; Backspace in view mode Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:54:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <002201cb0ed1$4580be10$d0823a30$@j.wright@qmul.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276887545 12217 80.91.229.12 (18 Jun 2010 18:59:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6455@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Francis Wright" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 18 20:59:03 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPgmJ-0005s7-OH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:59:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36798 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OPgmI-0005W7-UG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:58:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60514 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OPgm9-0005Tm-R8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:58:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPgm3-0000ZM-RP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:58:45 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49157) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPgm3-0000ZH-Q5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:58:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPgiU-0006N6-Hp; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:55:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6455 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6455-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6455.127688725124474 (code B ref 6455); Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6455) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jun 2010 18:54:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPghe-0006Mh-Jo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:54:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPghc-0006Mc-TR for 6455@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:54:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OPghW-0003KQ-Pt; Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:54:02 -0400 X-Spook: rs9512c sniper spies Leitrim SP4 UOP doctrine target X-Ran: )]%,F,-2mh?&gxGE%4~6]M1x~50jP#5GKBznyCz*|:W&i~P9#F4WQ97G`BeAPNg{CgXe;V X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <002201cb0ed1$4580be10$d0823a30$@j.wright@qmul.ac.uk> (Francis Wright's message of "Fri\, 18 Jun 2010 11\:30\:28 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:55:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:37842 Archived-At: "Francis Wright" wrote: > Run emacs -Q. > Open a file using view-file (or v in dired mode). > Move to a point well away from the beginning of the buffer. > Press the backspace key. > The error message generated is "Beginning of buffer", which is not true. > I think the error message should be the same as generated by pressing > (say) the delete key, namely "Buffer is read-only: #". This is a confusing report. The backspace key in View-mode runs View-scroll-page-backward, which scrolls the buffer backwards until it bumps into the start of the buffer. It seems to me that it is doing the right thing. Try it on a buffer where the whole buffer does not fit into the window at once, after first moving to the end of the buffer. Why should it instead say that the buffer is read-only, when it is not trying to modify the buffer in any way?