From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: cygwin -- getting *shell* to parse pipes & other unix cmd-line stuff? Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Public Access Networks Corp. Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1350078618 4795 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2012 21:50:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:50:18 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 12 23:50:26 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TMn7h-0008D0-Jl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:50:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42452 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TMn7X-0001pL-Pd for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:50:15 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!panix!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 62 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1350078439 5547 166.84.1.3 (12 Oct 2012 21:47:19 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:47:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:194886 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:87218 Archived-At: Here's what I *really* want to do: Use emacs, *shell*, and within that (*shell*), be able to pretend that I'm on a REAL computer, and use the full unix/linix command-line parsing stuff, eg "ls `cat foo.nam`", parens and subjobs, and >>EOF ... EOF, all that stuff. All without having to ever resort to the xp "cmd" window -- do it all straight out of the nice full-screen emacs *shell* display. Emacs already gives me the fiction that I'm on eg a sun or linux, but where that falls down is in *shell* typing in command-lines. --- I've also tried, in *shell*, running the cygwin tcsh, but with no success. (I forget the difficulty I had, but it was complete, that difficulty.) --- Something I noticed some time (years?) ago (still true?) was that cygwin had two versions, new and old (or standard?), but that the new one's bin had far fewer programs than did the old one. My version of cygwin is Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. ---------------------- OOPS: CURRENT AVAILABLE CYGWINI IS 1.7: Just looked at http://cygwin.com/, saw that 1.7 is the newest thing (I guess mine is pretty ancient), but that going to it requires lots of changes. Hmmm. (Mine is 1.5) Has everyone switched to 1.7, or are a lots of (smart) people still using 1.5? Sure wouldn't want to try to install the new one and screw up and thus also lose the one I have! Question: would 1.7 make my *shell* experience a lot better, given the problems I've listed above? THANKS! David