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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X - configuration package
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:18:02 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvznb1v5wa.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@asado.iro.umontreal.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: V9m0c.146682$jk2.576242@attbi_s53

> I _hope_ these specializations don't become part of the standard
> carbon built.  I want emacs to look like emacs regardless of the
> platform.

I wouldn't worry about it.  The default bindings will stay as they are, but
maybe some additional Mac-specific bindings could be added and some
Mac-specific options could be added as well.

> the variable mac-command-key-is-meta.  Every carbon emacs user I know
> sets this variable to nil, the result of which is to make the apple
> key (aka 'command' or 'cmd' key) map to alt and the option key map to
> meta.  It's a little odd the 'alt' key (same as 'option' on apple

I.e. with it set to nil, we can bind A-q to behave like C-x C-c and
Apple-q will then behave as Mac users want without impacting Emacs
old-timers since A-q is currently unbound.

> In X11, the mapping depends on xmodmap in the usual way.  All the osx
> emacs users I know who are running an X11 version map apple and option
> to alt and meta, respectively, which gives the same behavior as the
> carbon build when mac-command-key-is-meta is nil.

Well, you now know someone who doesn't: my macosx setup under X11 uses the
default xmodmap (except for the remapping of the funny => key to
Multi_key), which means that Apple maps to Meta.  This makes sense since
the key next to it (I guess it's the option key) is labelled Alt on my
PowerBook keyboard.

>>> - When you load a file, a new window opens (Emacs calls this: a frame). (
>>> Closing with Apple-W currently has a few glitches.)
>> This seems completely orthogonal to the OS you're running on.
> It's part of the old macos human-interface guidelines.  Personally I
> would _not_ want this behavior in emacs, regardless of platform.

So you agree it's not platform dependent.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-29 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-27 21:37 Emacs on OS X - configuration package David Reitter
2004-02-28 19:50 ` Arjan Bos
2004-02-29  4:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-02-29  5:21   ` Tim McNamara
2004-02-29 23:08     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-01  2:19       ` Tim McNamara
2004-03-01 18:30         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-01 21:55           ` videoxfer
2004-03-01 23:03             ` Tim McNamara
2004-03-01 23:01           ` Tim McNamara
2004-03-02 15:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-02-29 13:53   ` videoxfer
2004-02-29 23:18     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2004-03-01 13:36       ` videoxfer
2004-03-01 18:37         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-01  9:45     ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-03-01 12:17       ` Jussi Piitulainen
2004-03-01 13:43       ` videoxfer
2004-03-01 14:47         ` Jussi Piitulainen
2004-03-01 21:50           ` videoxfer
2004-03-02 15:04             ` Jussi Piitulainen
2004-03-02 19:32               ` videoxfer
2004-03-02 20:04                 ` Jussi Piitulainen
2004-03-03  0:03                   ` videoxfer
2004-03-01 23:41         ` David Steuber
2004-03-02 12:30           ` videoxfer
2004-03-02 15:17           ` Stefan Monnier

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