From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacspeak and UTF-8 -- possible?
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:02:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvzm0y7mrl.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87r6mc6jtm.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au
>>> Emacspeak AFAIK doesn't support multi-byte characters. The problem is
>>> that many speech synthesises, particularly older hardware based ones like
>>> the dectalk, don't understand UTF-8 character sets. If you send them
>>> a multibyte character, they either lock up, speak garbage or do something
>>> else unexpected.
>>
>> That's not a good reason to prevent display of any other char.
> Nobody said it was a good reason, its just the reason. I'd suggest you
> need to have familiarity with how it works and its internals and history
> before you can make a judgement,
> Given your contributions and long involvement with Emacs I'm surprised to
> see you make such an uninformed statement which contributes so little.
I'm sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to say that Emacspeak is crap or
stupid, really. I just felt like it was useful to point out that the
justification that the limitation is due to the speech synthesis process's
own limitations was not quite correct.
The real reason is that Emacspeak has not been adjusted to the way Emacs
handles encoding, so the limitation is a result of historical circumstances
coupled with a lack of manpower/expertise/motivation to rework the code in
order to lift this restriction. Nothing to be ashamed here.
Again, I'm sorry if I sounded like I was criticizing Emacspeak,
Stefan
PS: How ironic that Emacspeak provides "the first really functional
interface on Linux for [blind and] VI users".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-11 4:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-03 19:24 Emacspeak and UTF-8 -- possible? cmr.Pent
2007-08-07 10:41 ` Tim X
2007-08-08 9:09 ` cmr.Pent
2007-08-08 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-08 23:44 ` Robert D. Crawford
2007-08-09 17:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-10 7:40 ` Tim X
2007-08-10 5:39 ` Tim X
2007-08-10 9:23 ` grep-find question (Is it a bug of GunWin32 version of "grep") brianjiang
2007-08-10 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-08-11 5:55 ` brianjiang
2007-08-11 7:06 ` brianjiang
2007-08-11 10:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-08-12 9:58 ` brianjiang
2007-08-12 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-08-10 5:27 ` Emacspeak and UTF-8 -- possible? Tim X
2007-08-11 4:02 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2007-08-13 21:47 ` Raman
2007-08-14 18:28 ` Stefan Monnier
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