From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please make line-move-visual nil Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:29:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <48914.130.55.118.19.1242592120.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <66C6BA04EBCF4B6DAED69E851627D852@us.oracle.com> <87eiue83i7.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87my92dmdt.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87eiudewtq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <831vqdubqy.fsf@gnu.org> <6161f3180905270548t3012bc1ah161719ae01db0fb5@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243863131 15118 80.91.229.12 (1 Jun 2009 13:32:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org, "Andrew W. Nosenko" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ams@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 01 15:32:07 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MB7cU-0002Vj-Lv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:32:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50899 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MB7cT-0002zc-S7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:32:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MB7aG-0002Nb-Jb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:29:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MB7aC-0002JQ-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:29:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46555 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MB7aC-0002JB-JX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:29:44 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:24516 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MB7a8-0005Ah-Pq; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:29:40 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah8FAEB0I0pFpZIv/2dsb2JhbACBT8l3hAwF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,284,1241409600"; d="scan'208";a="39395617" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 01 Jun 2009 09:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([69.165.146.47]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id ITG50056; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:31:56 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id EC87E7FB6; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:29:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Sun, 31 May 2009 07:45:42 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111246 Archived-At: > This must be resolved before the release. > But I understand your point. Moreover, some time ago I also was > very frustrated, because convinient way for "phisical" line > navigation is no less. It is resolved: there is an easy and convenient way to get "physical line navigation", which is (setq line-move-visual nil). I do not think there is a real need to have both screen-line and logical-line movement available at the same time with convenient keys. Stefan