From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7764: 23.2; mpc.el relies too much on the toolbar Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:02:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87lj36qejt.fsf@zancas.localnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293816225 26172 80.91.229.12 (31 Dec 2010 17:23:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: David Bremner Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 31 18:23:41 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PYihX-0003HL-Qa for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:23:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59555 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PYihW-0001pR-T3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:23:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51801 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PYihS-0001nI-FD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:23:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PYihR-0004wj-Ay for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:23:34 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52316) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PYihR-0004we-7B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:23:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PYiGn-0003lv-Sz; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:56:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7764 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.129381452614459 (code B ref -1); Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2010 16:55:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PYiGC-0003l9-TQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:55:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PYiGB-0003kx-F0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:55:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PYiMv-0000os-9s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:02:22 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:50392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PYiMs-0000oT-Jj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:02:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55166 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PYiMo-0004XT-Bc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:02:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PYiMk-0000mz-Dm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:02:11 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:62013 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PYiMk-0000ms-2l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:02:10 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAK2aHU3O+Lc+/2dsb2JhbACkPHS/BIVKBIRljhs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,255,1291611600"; d="scan'208";a="86842388" Original-Received: from 206-248-183-62.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.183.62]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 31 Dec 2010 12:02:09 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8CE0258A74; Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:02:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87lj36qejt.fsf@zancas.localnet> (David Bremner's message of "Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:04:22 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:56:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:42959 Archived-At: > It seems there are no equivalent keybindings for the buttons in the > toolbar. This means the mode is not very usable of people who disable > the toolbar, or who run emacs in a terminal. Please consider adding more > key bindings in the next release. Thanks for using mpc.el ;-) And yes, I completely agree. For ttys we definitely need more key-bindings (I currently use M-x when using mpc.el on a tty, which works OK for my uses, but key-bindings would be welcome), and for GUI frames without tool-bar I'd like to add a copy of the toolbar into the mpc-status buffer (i.e. it wouldn't be a real "tool-bar" but would look and feel pretty similar and should ideally be derived from the exact same data). Stefan