From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Keeping an ELPA checkout Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:12:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87hbarw95a.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwqaudjs.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301087592 26811 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2011 21:13:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 25 22:13:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3EJf-0002gm-9v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:13:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45197 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q3EJe-0007Uc-8f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:13:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46927 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q3EJZ-0007UU-A9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3EJW-0006zy-VI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:13:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:63313 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3EJW-0006zp-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:12:58 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAMMEjU1Ld+RO/2dsb2JhbAClYXiITbsjhWkElgE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,245,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="98061098" Original-Received: from 75-119-228-78.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([75.119.228.78]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 25 Mar 2011 17:12:58 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F25D6660F8; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:12:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87fwqaudjs.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:53:59 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137702 Archived-At: > But ELPA packages are... packages! Everything in emacs/lisp is source > code, meant to work as you describe. Some ELPA packages happen to be > single-file libraries but you are trying to skip the installation and > activation steps which track dependencies, byte-compile, and adjust the > load path. At least I don't think that's how it is supposed to work in > Tom Tromey's design. I know, but I don't think there's any fundamental good reason why we can't tweak emacs/lisp/Makefile.in so that it gets things to work. > Which I think are so people can install ELPA locally, edit things > locally, and reinstall the package when ready. Does that help? It can > probably be automated to be part of a "make local-activate-all" process. An important part of my use case is that files be used directly from the Bzr checkout. Also I don't want to copy any of those files anywhere near my ~/ or ~/.emacs.d directory: everything should stay cleanly within the Bzr checkout. Stefan