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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Cc: 9463@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#9463: 24.0.50; Errors should not be continuable
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:09:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvzkhxhg3g.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m262kmgw1s.fsf@gmail.com> (Helmut Eller's message of "Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:05:19 +0200")

>>>>> Incidentally, C-M-c does pretty much the same as what c does currently.
>>>> It does something similar but not identical and hence re-introduces some
>>>> of the problems that the change you don't like aimed to solve.
>>> And what exactly is the difference between C-M-c and c?
>> C-M-c does a (throw 'exit), so in the case where we've caught a signal,
>> it prevents the condition-case catchers from doing their job.
> As matter of fact, c calls exit-recursive-edit (= C-M-c).
> So (throw 'exit) can't be the difference.

Ah, yes, indeed, I forgot about that part.  So yes, C-M-c behaves very
similarly (other than details like keeping the window displayed if
there's a upper-level frame marked for debug-on-exit).

> c now destroys information (backtrace, temporary buffers) in more
> situations than in previous releases.  I hope that we agree on this.

`c' always destroys information when it works.  And since it now works
in more cases, it indeed destroys information in more situations.
I think it's a feature.

> You claim that this is "important".  You neither explain why it is
> important nor why not destroying information was a problem previously.

I already explained.  You just disagree that this is important, and you
instead think it's more important to use the "stop at error" as
a heuristic to prevent you from stepping too far.  My experience
is different, so we disagree.
Have you tried the defadvice I suggested?


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-21 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-08 12:01 bug#9463: 24.0.50; Errors should not be continuable Helmut Eller
2011-09-08 13:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-08 18:13   ` Helmut Eller
2011-09-09  2:23     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-09  6:53       ` Helmut Eller
2011-09-09 14:07         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-09 16:37           ` Helmut Eller
2011-09-09 21:44             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-10 18:27               ` Helmut Eller
2011-09-19 21:17                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-20  6:49                   ` Helmut Eller
2011-09-20 21:53                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-21  8:05                       ` Helmut Eller
2011-09-21 19:09                         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-09-21 19:53                           ` Helmut Eller
2012-02-22  2:20                             ` Glenn Morris
2011-09-09  7:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-09  7:36         ` Helmut Eller
2011-09-09  7:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-09  8:22             ` Helmut Eller

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