From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why was `transient-mark-mode' turned off for `delete-selection-mode'? Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:00:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <60d75d3a-d04c-4394-800b-60b65fafdb11@default> <2ffbe01d-ef46-4467-83a6-4714a192ba8b@default> <3b045884-0f98-49f3-addd-227a3c1403d1@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409878899 24977 80.91.229.3 (5 Sep 2014 01:01:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 01:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 05 03:01:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XPhu5-0003Yb-De for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 03:01:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54789 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPhu5-0005nu-0D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:01:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41317) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPhtl-0005mx-7A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:01:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPhtd-0005v7-NE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:01:09 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:34875) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPhtd-0005v1-Ip for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:01:01 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s8510xjK016592; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:01:00 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D1A0B60BEC; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:00:59 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <3b045884-0f98-49f3-addd-227a3c1403d1@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 4 Sep 2014 14:44:43 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5054=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9378 : core <5054> : inlines <1245> : streams <1281627> : uri <1810408> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174024 Archived-At: > You are the one advocating for a change in the longstanding behavior. No, I did change the code, but that's done. I didn't advocate for it, nor do I feel any need to do it. >> E.g. give us a concrete situation where that would be useful. > I did, several times now: Be able to see clearly what it is > that you are typing over (replacing or deleting). > That's why this behavior was invented in the first place > (outside Emacs): highlighting the selection and letting you > type to replace what you see highlighted. What does this have to do with a concrete situation? Please: give me a concrete situation, starting from "emacs -Q". I think if you go through the exercise, you'll understand that your request is ill-founded. Stefan