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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas@gmail.com>
Cc: Bozhidar Batsov <bozhidar.batsov@gmail.com>,
	Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sequence manipulation functions
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:13:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvzjbrt13k.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8761efi63c.fsf@gmail.com> (Nicolas Petton's message of "Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:16:07 +0100")

> I agree.  Promoting some sequence-related cl-lib functions would also be
> perfectly fine with me.  I have no problem with adopting CL names, but I
> do feel that the current standard library is lacking.

FWIW, I think it's perfectly OK for Elisp packages to start with
a list of `require's.

But w.r.t CL's sequence manipulation functions, the problem is that
there is no structure there, so it's hard to find the functions
you need if you don't already know their name.

A lot of Elisp's "standard library" shares this fundamental problem.
The "prefix convention" is not useful only as a way to avoid name
collisions (which would imply that it can be "ignored" for "core
functions") but is also a way to structure the library, and so far the
core functions have not being doing a very good job of it.


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-16 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-04 22:17 sequence manipulation functions Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05  1:21 ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-05  9:46   ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05  4:58 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05  9:45   ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-06  0:54   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-05  9:23 ` Damien Cassou
2014-11-05 18:12   ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 21:59     ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 22:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06  0:30     ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-05 15:36   ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 15:52     ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-11-05 18:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 17:35       ` [PATCH] " Nicolas Petton
2014-11-07 17:43         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-10 17:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 22:28           ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-10 23:12           ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-11  2:20             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 17:49               ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 19:12                 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2014-11-12 19:30                   ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 20:28                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 20:56                       ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 23:06                         ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 23:17                           ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-13  1:29                             ` Leo Liu
2014-11-13  5:21                               ` Drew Adams
2014-11-14  5:16                                 ` Leo Liu
2014-11-16 12:52                                   ` Bozhidar Batsov
2014-11-16 14:16                                     ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-16 17:22                                       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-16 19:13                                       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-11-17  2:52                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-17 11:46                                         ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-17 13:53                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-16  7:38                           ` Damien Cassou
2014-11-20 23:16                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 12:40                             ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-21 13:11                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 13:28                                 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-21 14:44                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-24 17:49                                     ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-24 18:01                                       ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 16:25   ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 17:21     ` Artur Malabarba
2014-11-05 18:27       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 17:22     ` Damien Cassou
2014-11-05 18:28       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 17:41     ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 18:23       ` Tom Tromey
2014-11-05 18:29         ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 18:29       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-06  4:39         ` Richard Stallman

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