From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should we restore manually maintained ChangeLogs Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:20:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <837fheuu6a.fsf@gnu.org> <83twkiteb3.fsf@gnu.org> <83lh5utbxb.fsf@gnu.org> <56DDD02A.20809@cs.ucla.edu> <83fuw2t2ue.fsf@gnu.org> <56DE0F6A.6010207@cs.ucla.edu> <83pov5rmt6.fsf@gnu.org> <56DFD78F.40205@cs.ucla.edu> <56E06093.7050509@cs.ucla.edu> <83twkfo7ij.fsf@gnu.org> <56E071AB.8050008@cs.ucla.edu> <83io0vo43x.fsf@gnu.org> <56E078DB.1020809@cs.ucla.edu> <83d1r3o248.fsf@gnu.org> <56E0CEBC.80804@cs.ucla.edu> <83lh5qn7oq.fsf@gnu.org> <56E1A3C2.4070508@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457630475 12289 80.91.229.3 (10 Mar 2016 17:21:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 10 18:21:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ae4Gf-000536-5F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 18:20:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50059 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae4Gb-0006XX-Gs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:20:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46109) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae4GY-0006XR-Om for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:20:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae4GY-0006kI-1R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:20:50 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:17527) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae4GS-0006h9-At; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:20:44 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0A+FgA731xV/0a6+M5cDoMChAKFVcMLBAICgTw9EAEBAQEBAQGBCkEFg10BAQMBViMFCws0EhQYDSSINwjPIwEBAQcBAQEBHos6hQUHhC0FjDCNPYUqkhSCFIFFI4M6XCCCeAEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0A+FgA731xV/0a6+M5cDoMChAKFVcMLBAICgTw9EAEBAQEBAQGBCkEFg10BAQMBViMFCws0EhQYDSSINwjPIwEBAQcBAQEBHos6hQUHhC0FjDCNPYUqkhSCFIFFI4M6XCCCeAEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="195877357" Original-Received: from 206-248-186-70.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.186.70]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2016 12:20:44 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7DBF660420; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:20:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <56E1A3C2.4070508@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:41:38 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201405 Archived-At: > When I want an accurate record of what happened, I want to see what was > actually committed, warts and all. If people start using git-replace to > change old commit messages, I'll probably start using --no-replace-objects > to see what the original commit looked like. I realize your style > differs. Still, it's not clear that it's worth inflicting significant pain > on other developers in order to support that style. Maybe the Git guys would accept a patch which lets you provide a "--full-history" option to "git log" such that for every commit whose message has a "replace"ment, it will show you not only the replacement, but the original message as well (and maybe even the sequence of replacements, if there can be such a thing). Stefan