From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org Mode version to be bundled with Emacs 25?
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:19:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvzipe27lg.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CA+OMD9jcPd1biisF4wo5XzATkZPPc3-ZDw51wrzfU5tqQKqyJA@mail.gmail.com
> But there is something missing in Emacs presently that would make this a
> much more attractive option to package developers who want the broadest
> base of users. There needs to be a simple, single function call to require
> a package which would automatically download, build, install and activate
> it (a flag could control whether or not this actually happened
> automatically or if the user were prompted to confirm, etc).
Doesn't package-install do that?
Of course, I smell some connection to the fact that Emacs developers
(including myself) have been opposed to making Emacs open up network
connections (e.g. at startup) without explicit request from the user.
> The main issue I see right now is that packages are installed on a per-user
> basis rather than a per-Emacs site basis, so you would get a lot more code
> instance duplication and version management issues than you would have with
> a package integrated into Emacs core.
ELPA packages can be installed site-wide just fine. There's no obvious
direct support to do that, admittedly, but it's just a small matter of
designing the UI (and default layout) and coding it. I had such support
in install.el and it's really not hard to add. And at least under
Debian you can install various ELPA packages site-wide via Debian's
package manager.
> With this feature, Emacs core programmers could start referencing external
> packages as if they were already installed and Org could potentially move
> back out of core.
Emacs core does not reference Org, AFAICT.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-18 17:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-18 14:12 Org Mode version to be bundled with Emacs 25? N. Jackson
2016-07-18 14:51 ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-18 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-18 16:14 ` John Wiegley
2016-07-18 16:38 ` N. Jackson
2016-07-18 16:40 ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-18 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-07-18 18:10 ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-19 14:01 ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-18 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-18 17:57 ` John Wiegley
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