From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2017 14:49:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8737aac0rb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <7s37aapc4g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499453457 21732 195.159.176.226 (7 Jul 2017 18:50:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 18:50:57 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 07 20:50:53 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTYL6-0005Mo-GK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2017 20:50:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58373 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTYLB-0008FH-P4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2017 14:50:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34417) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTYKN-0008Bd-IQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2017 14:50:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTYKK-0001tE-GL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2017 14:50:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=41147 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTYKK-0001sm-8X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2017 14:50:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTYKA-0002Qs-CG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2017 20:49:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:YSY628bdkt6tBkrEuRjK0+BlMFk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216286 Archived-At: >> which might warrant improving the copyright assignment mechanisms. > I don't think the mechanism, as such, is much of an inconvenience any > more. Isn't all the commnication is done digitally now? I think Phillip's points are very valid: there are still friction points, *especially* when the one doing the work is not a maintainer. When I was Emacs maintainer, I'd be advised whenever a new assignment for Emacs came in and I could easily check existing assignments, so it was rather painless. I still have my fencepost.gnu.org account so I can still easily check existing assignments, but I'm not informed any more when a new assignment comes in. In a sense the new process where the communication is all done electronically has made those remaining friction points more apparent. > The substantial part of the job is finding those people and asking > them to please sign. But it's not terribly hard. There's also finding who you need to contact, keeping track of the status, reminding them after a while, ... maybe it's not *hard* but it's tedious and it can eat a lot of time. I really appreciated that Phillip did that work for dash, and I think in general that's a kind of work that would benefit from being delegated, but for that we need better access to the copyright.list database for non-maintainers. Stefan