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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Shouldn't records be sequences?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 13:23:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvzhbgpqrm.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0e837a01-0d38-27e2-179c-e6aca1872248@gmail.com> ("Clément Pit-Claudel"'s message of "Sun, 12 Apr 2020 12:46:07 -0400")

>> but that's only motivated by the need for backward compatibility with
>> code which used to expect `cl-defstruct` to use vectors instead of
>> records.
> Isn't performance part of it too?

It could be relevant, tho I can't remember it being a factor in practice.

> A recent example: I have a list of records that I display to users,
> using a custom sort order (a list of record fields).  It's convenient
> to be able to go from list of fields to list of array offsets once,
> and then use those offsets in the comparison function (this is similar
> to what I'd do with C structs).

Not sure how that relates to treating them as sequences.
We do want some way to work at the lower level (i.e. access the N'th
field), which is currently done with `aref` but could be done by
a `record-ref` instead.


        Stefan


PS: The clean equivalent in Elisp would be to use a list of
field-accessors instead of a list of fields.  This also saves you from
converting to a list of array offsets.  But (funcall accessor x) is
probably significantly slower than (aref x offset), indeed.  OTOH I can
imagine an implementation of Elisp where the cost is comparable
(because the `funcall` is cheap enough).






  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-12 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-12  9:35 Shouldn't records be sequences? Štěpán Němec
2020-04-12 12:03 ` Štěpán Němec
2020-04-12 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-12 16:46   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-12 17:23     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-04-12 18:49       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-12 17:02   ` Štěpán Němec
2020-04-12 19:14     ` Stefan Monnier

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