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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 43519@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43519: 28.0.50; Overlay at end of minibuf hides minibuf's real content
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 18:06:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvzh5l8med.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r1qx1q9v.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 19 Sep 2020 23:10:36 +0300")

>> I disagree: icomplete merely added text after point via an overlay and
>> didn't do anything which explicitly justifies horizontal scrolling.
>
> Maybe I'm missing something, but what does the code in
> icomplete-completions that calls string-width and window-width try to
> do, then?  I mean this part:
>
> 	     ;;"-prospects" - more than one candidate
> 	     (prospects-len (+ (string-width
> 				(or determ (concat open-bracket close-bracket)))
> 			       (string-width icomplete-separator)
> 			       (+ 2 (string-width ellipsis)) ;; take {…} into account
> 			       (string-width (buffer-string))))
>              (prospects-max
>               ;; Max total length to use, including the minibuffer content.
>               (* (+ icomplete-prospects-height
>                     ;; If the minibuffer content already uses up more than
>                     ;; one line, increase the allowable space accordingly.
>                     (/ prospects-len (window-width)))
>                  (window-width)))

That's not relevant to the issue at hand.  I used `icomplete-mode` only
as a vehicle to show the underlying behavior with a short recipe which
exhibits a real-life problem.

>> > It should produce an overlay string that fits in the window, then the
>> > prompt will be visible.
>> That would merely work around the underlying problem
> What do you think is the underlying problem?

That the redisplay performed horizontal scrolling when it was not needed
since the cursor was already visible without such scrolling.

>> (and as you know it's wickedly difficult to construct a string which
>> will have "just the right size" to fit into the minibuffer window).
> It doesn't have to be "just the right size", it could err on the safe
> side.  It already attempts to do so, by avoiding truncation in the
> middle of a candidate.  It should just do a better job, that's all.

And how do we generalize that to the case where the overlay contains
newlines, TABs, chars in different scripts using different fonts,
different faces, images, etc.... ?

>> Maybe there's a good reason for the redisplay to behave this way
> Behave in what way? what's special about what you see on display in
> this case, given the contents of the mini-window's buffer?

Try the recipe below instead:

    (minibuffer-with-setup-hook
        (lambda ()
          (insert "hello")
          (let ((ol (make-overlay (point) (point)))
                (max-mini-window-height 1)
                (text "askdjfhaklsjdfhlkasjdfhklasdhflkasdhflkajsdhflkashdfkljahsdlfkjahsdlfkjhasldkfhalskdjfhalskdfhlaksdhfklasdhflkasdhflkasdhflkajsdhklajsdgh"))
            (save-excursion (insert text))
            (sit-for 2)
            (delete-region (point) (point-max))
            (put-text-property 0 1 'cursor t text)
            (overlay-put ol 'after-string text)
            (sit-for 2)
            (delete-overlay ol)))
      (read-string "toto: "))

This performs "display of text after point" in 2 different ways:
- first by `insert`.
- then with an overlay.
The visual rendering of the text is the same, with the cursor at the
same place.  When we do it with `insert` there is no horizontal
scrolling, but when we do it with an overlay the text gets scrolled so
the cursor is at `window-start`.

`icomplete` needs the behavior to be the same as with `insert`, but it
prefers to use an overlay to avoid some undesirable side-effects of
modifying the actual text.

So the question is: how to get the same behavior as what we'd get with
`insert` but without actually modifying the buffer's contents?

Is it more clear now?


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-19 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-19 17:54 bug#43519: 28.0.50; Overlay at end of minibuf hides minibuf's real content Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 19:42   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 20:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 22:06       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-09-20  8:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 21:04           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20 21:31             ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21  6:50               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 14:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 15:02                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 15:33                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 15:44                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 16:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 16:27                           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 17:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 18:42                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 19:37                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 19:37                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22  6:57                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22  6:57                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 14:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 15:52                                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 16:10                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 21:01                                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 17:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-21 17:47                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 18:45                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 19:37                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22  6:58                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 14:14                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 14:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 14:31                 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 14:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 14:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 14:18               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 14:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 15:26                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 15:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 16:00                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20 22:40           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-21  7:04             ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 14:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 17:25               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-21 17:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 19:17                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-21 19:47                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22  5:26                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 14:00                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-22 14:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 15:51                           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 16:06                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 16:17                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22 16:47                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 16:49                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 20:06                                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23  2:40                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23  7:15                                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 14:34                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 20:05                     ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-21 20:49                     ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 18:35                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-22  6:58                     ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-22  6:58                     ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20  1:00 ` bug#43519: (no subject) Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20  6:08   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20  8:27 ` bug#43519: 28.0.50; Overlay at end of minibuf hides minibuf's real content Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20  9:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 10:12     ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-20 10:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 19:50 ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2020-09-22 20:03                                   ` Drew Adams

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