From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54001: 29.0.50; abbreviate-file-name has side-effects Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:48:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <96603590-acc9-65d1-4086-7e2f114f9441@gmail.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31425"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Daniel Mendler , 54001@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jim Porter Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 14 20:58:22 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nJhUL-0007ws-S2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:58:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43156 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nJhUJ-0000Pe-Cw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:58:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56946) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nJhLK-0005tx-7D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:49:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48711) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nJhLJ-00067s-Su for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:49:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nJhLJ-0004Tp-SW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:49:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 54001 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 54001-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B54001.164486813517208 (code B ref 54001); Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 54001) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2022 19:48:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42608 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nJhLD-0004TU-Ik for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:48:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:21189) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nJhL8-0004TB-M1 for 54001@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:48:54 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6C0254422F3; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:48:44 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 24D894422EB; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:48:43 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1644868123; bh=YCqtwBekVyuSbAa/250XtyVNxc72D23H2jsjLauHIVA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=hdPmCVWUsHfuVWeN2xpL1S471pSkBPjrq/ehxoShEHvlR64BXol/O7cNU8Q7lUS1T /s/CoW8KH7IfJJwRcN1DSRf3/hF3u4AU2IEdeLxlBJTrBI/HR7B5AxCM5OuEJor8Vt I/Lu8+/JWHVX46zITy9yBsT/QD20JE5XVVyNI3AzLhP1tbAryPbTkEMCxkUgK6BVfl w99hlN9W0l85iQr088VgAL6oK3+3JEhEMKs/gO8SBQ5b48JigwjyYPpwfm6vUu2WpX Mgndy0i0cwrRqeYeiyCIyteKrXIrVwlolkfYqFjg8+w98b7PVqnDalpyZNCZKEBoVt NiN1gPN/cYe1Q== Original-Received: from ceviche (modemcable085.122-83-70.mc.videotron.ca [70.83.122.85]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 055F1120491; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:48:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <96603590-acc9-65d1-4086-7e2f114f9441@gmail.com> (Jim Porter's message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:52:32 -0800") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:226916 Archived-At: >> I suggest we take a step back and think of how to get that feature >> without having to contact any remote host during `abbreviate-file-name`. >> Maybe we can do that by making Tramp opportunistically add entries to >> `directory-abbrev-alist` when it performs expansion? > > I think Michael Albinus suggested doing that in the original bug, although > I was concerned about modifying defcustoms invisibly like that. Is that ok > to do? No it's not, but we can add a non-defcustom'd variable holding additional entries to circumvent this problem. > Another option might be to store the abbreviations for a given > file-name-handler somewhere internally and consult that when calling that > file-name-handler's implementation of `abbreviate-file-name'. That would work as well. Stefan