From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: [21.1.90]: point put at point-min in *compilation* Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:28:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <6EE216E1AA959543A555C60FF34FB76702CD2B19@maileube01.misys.global.ad> <6EE216E1AA959543A555C60FF34FB76702D254AF@maileube01.misys.global.ad> <86y79yrrdz.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <6EE216E1AA959543A555C60FF34FB76702DB6689@maileube01.misys.global.ad> <6EE216E1AA959543A555C60FF34FB76702DB6BDD@maileube01.misys.global.ad> <86zludgk4b.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202398196 9026 80.91.229.12 (7 Feb 2008 15:29:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, "Marshall, Simon" , rms@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 07 16:30:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JN8hX-0004Ww-T1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:30:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JN8h5-0003Cd-Av for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:29:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JN8gO-0002bV-Ts for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:29:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JN8gN-0002aB-38 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:29:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JN8gM-0002Zs-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:28:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JN8gM-00041r-Cu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:28:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JN8gM-0008U6-5P for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:28:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JN8gI-00040h-Ud for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:28:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JN8gF-0003zK-3M; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:28:51 -0500 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF622CF8E8; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:28:50 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECF23FE1; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:28:34 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 992516CAA0; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:28:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <86zludgk4b.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:02:12 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88427 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20926 Archived-At: >>> But scrolling still has to occur for you to be able to see if >> there's >>> anything to read. >>> >>> That is not true. Starting a new compilation erases the buffer. >>> So you will certainly see that the output has started. Then you >>> can read it at your own pace. >> >> Yes, you can read it by scrolling through it - that was my point above. >> With a default of nil you still _always_ have to scroll yourself, >> whereas with a default of t you _only_ have to scroll yourself if (a) >> you see there is something worth reading and (b) the compilation hasn't >> stopped anyway because that something was a fatal error. And with t you >> get the visual cue of progress status. >> >>> If it scrolls automatically I often can't even SEE if there is >>> something I want to look at. And supposing I do see, by the time >>> I can get my hands on the keyboard to type anything, a lot more >>> output will usually have come out. >> >> Iff you think you might have missed something, then you can scroll >> back. > Uh no, you can't. By the time you found the Prior button, twenty pages > of material will have gone by. Both options are a M-< (resp. M->) away from one another in this respect, so it doesn't really matter whether 1 or 20 pages follow or precede the interesting spot. Stefan