From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#398: 23.0.60; M-x customize-option Info-hide TAB not recognized Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:00:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <007e01c8cca8$71bbe350$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <009401c8ccc7$041f2f90$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 398@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213306140 27326 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2008 21:29:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, 398@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 12 23:29:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K6uMY-0001Xs-G2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:29:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33840 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K6uLk-0000Wd-Pj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:28:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K6uK7-00087O-Gy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:27:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K6uK6-00086u-GN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:27:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51108 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K6uK6-00086n-CB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:27:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:58217) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6uK5-00041Y-Rt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:27:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5CLR7s3029926; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:27:07 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m5CLA4bY025367; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:10:04 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:10:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 398 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.121330444723308 (code B ref -1); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:10:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Jun 2008 21:00:47 +0000 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5CL0hoQ023211 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:00:44 -0700 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:53179) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K6tsV-0007AC-7V for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:58:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6tuR-0000vr-Qt for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:00:42 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:45637 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6tuR-0000vm-Jj for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:00:39 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao0FADErUUhMCpzv/2dsb2JhbACBW61W X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,633,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="22464674" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2008 17:00:38 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([76.10.156.239]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id SBM23438; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:00:38 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C3B4A85E3; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:00:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <009401c8ccc7$041f2f90$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:00:51 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:27:11 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:18360 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:22620 Archived-At: > Hm. I naively thought they were. Just out of curiosity, why not? Partly for laziness (as in "Haskell"), and partly because it can't be done for all variables (e.g. for variables whose default value is not a constant, in which case the moment at which the default value is evaluated matters). Stefan