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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Silent autoloading
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:06:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy6zt54ag.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uiqqxr0m4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 09 Nov 2008 06:20:51 +0200")

>> > Stefan, any insights?  Having Emacs sit silently in the minibuffer for
>> > prolonged periods of time, without saying anything, makes me think it's
>> > stuck, so at the very least let's have an option to get the old
>> > behavior back.
>> 
>> I agree with the basic premise, but I'm wondering what's the
>> relationship: what kind of machine are you using where loading a .elc
>> file is not virtually instantaneous?
>> What's the actual use case where you've seen this problem of having
>> Emacs sit silently for a prolonged period of time?

> emacs -Q
> C-x C-f /foo:b

> On "windows32 home-c4e4a596f7 2.5.1 2600 i786-pc Intel unknown MinGW",
> a 3-GHz single-CPU machine, it takes Emacs 7 seconds to echo the `b'
> after the colon.  This is with a cold cache; with warm cache, it's
> still 2 seconds, which is annoyingly visible.

> On "Linux fencepost 2.6.16.29-xen #1 SMP Wed Dec 6 07:32:36 EST 2006
> x86_64 GNU/Linux", a 2-GHz Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2214
> machine, the numbers are 4 seconds and 3 seconds, accordingly.

> Maybe Tramp is a large package, but then "C-x C-f" is a very
> frequently used command.

Ah, yes, I see that for Tramp indeed.
How 'bout making Tramp output something before loading itself?


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-09 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-08 12:30 Silent autoloading Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-08 21:34 ` Glenn Morris
2008-11-08 22:54   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-09  2:22     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-09  4:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-09 15:06         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-11-09 18:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-10  1:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-10  8:37               ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-10 20:11                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-10 20:19                   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-11  4:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-10 22:05                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-16 14:34               ` Michael Albinus
2008-11-16 19:02                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-09 11:13       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-11-09 15:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-17  5:01           ` Michael Albinus
2008-11-17 14:46             ` Stefan Monnier

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