From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2648: 23.0.60; remove C-c ` from rcirc track minor mode Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:38:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 2648@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236888500 17024 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2009 20:08:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2648@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Leo Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 12 21:09:35 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LhrDh-0002Q0-Nl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:09:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60809 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LhrCL-0006E2-PP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:08:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lhr87-0004fU-AK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:03:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lhr84-0004f3-F4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:03:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48293 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lhr84-0004ey-9w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:03:44 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:46427) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lhr83-0003mF-M6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:03:43 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2CK3fM2016470; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:03:41 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n2CJj4NM011739; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:45:04 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:45:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2648 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2648-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2648.123688673610364 (code B ref 2648); Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:45:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2648) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Mar 2009 19:38:56 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2CJcqLk010355 for <2648@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:38:54 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvAEAHcBuUlFxJo1/2dsb2JhbACBTtB/hA0G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,352,1233550800"; d="scan'208";a="35105310" Original-Received: from 69.196.153.53-wifi-optionsdsl.ca (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.154.53]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2009 15:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8590881DF; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:38:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Leo's message of "Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:36:52 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:03:47 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:26270 Archived-At: >> The key sequences bound in a minor mode should consist of `C-c' >> followed by one of `.,/?`'"[]\|~!#$%^&*()-_+='. (The other punctuation >> characters are reserved for major modes.) > It seems not many packages are consciously following this guideline. Outside packages, indeed. Bundled packages follow it a bit more carefully, tho. >> So, I think only the C-c ` binding should stay and the others should >> be removed. > Then ERC will also have to be changed. Could very well be. >> As for the conflict with AUCTeX, I'm not sure what we should do. >> Maybe use some other key. Arguably, buffer-local minor modes should >> take precedence over global minor modes, in which case AUCTeX's C-c ` >> binding would take precedence, but this is a "TODO" feature, so it >> doesn't help us here. > One way or another. Given that AUCTeX is one of the major editing > environments for LaTeX/TeX, it seems entirely unnecessary for a released > emacs to cause any pain to those users, particularly when this can be > fixed with minimal changes. Of course. The question is what the trivial change will be. Stefan