From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rmail and the raw-text coding system Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:19:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1295292019 14835 80.91.229.12 (17 Jan 2011 19:20:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:20:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: mark.lillibridge@hp.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 17 20:20:14 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Peucd-00010h-Sl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:20:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37545 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Peucd-0005e7-95 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:20:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59342 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Peubh-0005A6-HA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:19:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Peubg-0004Wi-9M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:19:13 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:19968 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Peubg-0004WA-5V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:19:12 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am4GAHskNE1FpZbF/2dsb2JhbACWPI4XdMFKhVAEhG+ONg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,333,1291611600"; d="scan'208";a="88308537" Original-Received: from 69-165-150-197.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.150.197]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 17 Jan 2011 14:19:10 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A017859097; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:19:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Mark Lillibridge's message of "Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:11:53 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134659 Archived-At: >> > I assume it did so because the buffer contained "invalid" code >> > points. >> That would mean that the BABYL file is corrupted. Is it? > Not as far as I can tell. Weird characters are displayed for some > messages, but that is normal with Rmail 22 as it doesn't understand > MIME. I believe the use of raw-text does not lose data. The BABYL file is supposed to use the emacs-mule encoding. So if it contains invalid emacs-mule byte sequences, it presumably means it's corrupted. Of course, maybe they are valid sequences which Emacs23/24 rejects by mistake, or maybe there's yet something else going on. But AFAIK BABYL files use a single encoding for the whole file, and since around Emacs-21.x that single encoding is supposed to be emacs-mule (and I seem to remember that the BABYL file is supposed to contain an annotation at the very beginning saying it's using emacs-mule, if so). Stefan