From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making it easier to enable dired-x Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:24:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300415074 12109 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2011 02:24:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel , Deniz Dogan To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 18 03:24:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0PMU-000152-BI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 03:24:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33247 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q0PMT-0008Cw-O9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:24:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36988 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q0PMP-0008Cq-7w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:24:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0PMO-0005i8-7O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:24:17 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:63848 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0PMO-0005i4-0o; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:24:16 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAONegk1MCqJN/2dsb2JhbAClWniITblrhWMElWA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,203,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="97041770" Original-Received: from 76-10-162-77.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.162.77]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 17 Mar 2011 22:24:15 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0E532660B1; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:24:15 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:31:17 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137385 Archived-At: >> Why don't you think it should be enabled by default? > Well I've never really used it, so take this with a grain of salt, but > after tidying it up a bit recently, the impression I got was that it > contains a few useful features and a lot of cruft. > Eg dired-filename-at-point is not massively different to ffap and > thing-at-pt, stuff like "hands-off-my-x-keys" seems clunky, dired-x's > local variables are now replaced by dir-locals, there's 50 lines and 3 > commands dedicated just to deleting TeX and patch temp files, etc. > Plus it has its own manual, which is ~ 80% of the length of dired.texi, > which would have to be merged in somehow. I tend to agree. I would welcome adding the remaining useful functionality of dired-x into dired and then making dired-x obsolete. Stefan