From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: debbugs.el revisited Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:47:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87iprn6nic.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87aacy8i97.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <8739iq5k0c.fsf@gmx.de> <974o348tfp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4E0F88EC.9040101@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309790876 19065 80.91.229.12 (4 Jul 2011 14:47:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Christoph Scholtes , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: joakim@verona.se Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 16:47:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdkRD-00021i-PK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:47:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49203 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdkRC-0002jE-VH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:47:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdkQz-0002iz-MC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:47:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdkQy-0002Jy-Nr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:47:37 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:43020 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdkQy-0002Jp-Ho for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 10:47:36 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtwHAE/REU5FxIxr/2dsb2JhbABTmQqOcnjKBYY2BJ5chCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,472,1304308800"; d="scan'208";a="120369719" Original-Received: from 69-196-140-107.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.140.107]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 Jul 2011 10:47:35 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E418459173; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:47:34 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (joakim@verona.se's message of "Sun, 03 Jul 2011 01:08:31 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141527 Archived-At: >>>> I'll add this to debbugs-gnu.el. >>> Is this available anywhere to try out? I didn't see it in the trunk. >> It's in GNU ELPA, aka "the place where we put software that nobody will >> ever know where to find, and will never actually use". > In opensuse they had this bash hack called "zephyr". when you typed a > command that wasnt in the path it looked it up in the package database > and offered to install the corresponding package. They have the same > functionality in Fedora now but I cant find out the name of the program > that does this now. > Maybe we could have the same in Emacs? That is: Indeed, we could: we could process all the autoloads from GNU ELPA packages, and "neuter" them so that instead of being really active they just end up advertising the existence of the package. Doing it for arbitrary autoloads is probably impossible, but we could start by handling a few important cases (such as command definitions and auto-mode-alist additions). If someone wants to take on this challenge... Stefan