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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Dmitry Antipov <dmantipov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Memory again
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 08:29:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy5upzvgb.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EDDED4B.7030607@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Antipov's message of "Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:24:11 +0400")

>> I still believe this is what's happening for me on Linux 3.x and
>> Darwin 10.7.x when I kill a buffer and the claimed memory is not
>> given back to the kernel.

> I tried with 1M of #warnings, and (buffer-size *compilation*) was 58M - but
> RSS grows to 2250M. During compilation, strace shows an excessive usage both
[...]
> But even after GC, RSS is 2192M. Oops.

While RSS is a useful measure for performance debugging, here it gives
us "vague" numbers only since returning 100MB to the kernel may have no
effect on the RSS if that memory was not in RAM.

Still, the point in any case is that if the buffer is 60MB, then killing
it will return those 60MB to the kernel, but it won't return to the
kernel the memory allocated for Lisp objects such as interval nodes
(used for text-properties), cons cells, strings, etc...
So of your 2250MB, only the 60MB of the buffer text will be recovered by
the kernel (well, potentially more, depending on how fragmented the Lisp
objects are, but in practice these things seems to stick around).
The rest will stay property of Emacs.  This doesn't mean it's wasted:

Emacs should be perfectly able to reuse it next time it needs memory for
cons cells, strings, interval nodes, ...
E.g. re-running the same compilation should not significantly grow the
Emacs process (other than the extra 60MB, of course).


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-06 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-26 13:26 Memory again Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 13:28 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 14:35 ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-11-26 14:48   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 17:37     ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-11-26 20:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 14:58   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 16:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 19:02       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 20:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 21:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-27 10:29           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 10:43             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-11-27 13:53               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 13:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-27 13:53               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 16:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-27 17:37                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 17:59                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-06  4:02       ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-06  5:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06  9:35           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-06 10:24             ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-06 13:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06 13:29               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-12-06 17:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06 20:25                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-07  7:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-07  8:15                       ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-07 13:06                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-07 14:01                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-08 17:30                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-09  3:39                               ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-09 13:52                                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-06 13:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06 16:28           ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-06 19:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-11 17:49               ` Nix
2011-12-15  3:52               ` Tim Connors
2011-12-15  4:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15  4:38                   ` Tim Connors
2011-12-15  5:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15  4:50                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-15  6:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:55                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-17 17:40                   ` Nix
2011-12-18 15:13                   ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-19  1:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-19  8:28                       ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-19 11:26                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-23 16:49                           ` Nix
2012-01-25 16:19                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-11-26 17:54     ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-11-26 18:47       ` martin rudalics
2011-11-26 19:09       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-28  4:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-11-28  9:24       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-28 15:31         ` Davis Herring
2011-11-28 21:33           ` Carsten Mattner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-12-19 19:51 emacs user
2011-12-20  5:32 ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-01-06 14:28 ` Chong Yidong
2012-01-06 15:53   ` emacs user
2011-12-20  6:34 emacs user
2011-12-20  7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-20 12:05   ` emacs user
2011-12-20 13:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-20 22:07       ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-21  8:07       ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-21 10:39         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-21 17:55         ` emacs user
2011-12-22 14:08           ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-22 14:58             ` emacs user
2011-12-22 18:54               ` emacs user
2011-12-22 19:15                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-23  4:41                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 10:04                     ` emacs user
2012-01-17 10:58                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 13:14                         ` emacs user
2012-01-18  1:30                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-22 23:09                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-23  0:39               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-23 10:44                 ` emacs user
2012-01-05  6:13                   ` emacs user
2012-01-05 22:37                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-01-06  9:58                       ` emacs user
2012-01-06 11:10                         ` Carsten Mattner

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