From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:53:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bnoeed7v.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761emkm7l.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <871tp9k6hw.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87vbmlsf62.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87h9y5ii7s.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415742845 28644 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2014 21:54:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:54:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Achim Gratz , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nic Ferrier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 11 22:53:58 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XoJNu-0007bE-A0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 22:53:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50844 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoJNt-0002uq-Vt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:53:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37590) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoJNZ-0002ub-Nw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:53:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoJNS-0000PQ-75 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:53:37 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:45646) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoJNS-0000PK-3f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:53:30 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4MAOatTlRLd+sd/2dsb2JhbABcgw6DYoZ+y1MEAgKBHBcBAXyEAwEBAwFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSISwnLcgEBAQEGAQEBAR6RCAeESwWLZI0vBZkIgW+EFh+CegEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: Au4MAOatTlRLd+sd/2dsb2JhbABcgw6DYoZ+y1MEAgKBHBcBAXyEAwEBAwFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSISwnLcgEBAQEGAQEBAR6RCAeESwWLZI0vBZkIgW+EFh+CegEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,797,1406606400"; d="scan'208";a="96670734" Original-Received: from 75-119-235-29.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.235.29]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 11 Nov 2014 16:53:29 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1A0C6848C; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:53:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87h9y5ii7s.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> (Nic Ferrier's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:40:39 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176789 Archived-At: > I don't think a custom var is as good as something persistent in the > file system. OTOH, a Custom var is the standard way Emacs stores persistent user choices (and the set of installed packages is a user choice). >> So I'd have an (empty) package named "user-packages" and it depends on >> exactly those packages I named, possibly with their version specified? >> And I could maybe have a number of additional packages to create >> something of a hierarchy of such things? Like a "system-packages" >> package that my "user-packages" package can depend on (or not if I don't >> want to)? > Elpakit let's you do that. Ah, that's where you're going. I kind of like the idea, but I don't like the idea of editing the content of packages in ~/.emacs.d/elpa (even if only for some "special" packages like "user-package"). Stefan