From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Defending GCC considered futile Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:19:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20150207202952.1042BC00A6@snark.thyrsus.com> <87wq3rocqb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20150209172445.290dc20e@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <20150211104229.2782cb00@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <837fvo77dy.fsf@gnu.org> <20150211112941.148f783d@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423682403 4329 80.91.229.3 (11 Feb 2015 19:20:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 19:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Perry E. Metzger" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 11 20:19:52 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcpD-0005Cs-Qr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:19:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46708 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcpD-00021C-0y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:19:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40720) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcp5-0001vS-TK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:19:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcp5-0002m9-7G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:19:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:59776) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcp1-0002kr-9j; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:19:39 -0500 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F22D85C9A; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:19:39 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5793B1E5B8A; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:19:14 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 406EFB4102; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:19:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20150211112941.148f783d@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> (Perry E. Metzger's message of "Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:29:41 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 132.204.24.67 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182914 Archived-At: >> Modularizing GCC is not discouraged. It actually happens as we >> speak, check out the latest developments in GCC 5 and GDB. > If this is the case, what is the problem with Emacs directly linking > against the GCC front end to get access to the C and C++ AST? AFAIK, there is no technical problem with it (even GCC's license allows for it). The problem is with Richard refusal to develop&distribute such a thing. Stefan