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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Reliable after-change-functions (via: Using incremental parsing in Emacs)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 22:46:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy2repq6m.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86wo6yhj4d.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (Stephen Leake's message of "Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:38:26 -0800")

> In C or C++ body files, "a complete parse" is typically one variable or
> function declaration. So if Emacs can reliably find the beginning and
> end of those declarations,

IIUC, a large part of CC-mode's trouble is exactly the need to find
somewhat reliably a position vaguely like "the beginning of
a declaration".

It's very much a non-trivial problem (and in the general case to
properly handle all possible comments you need to start parsing from
point-min).

>> And yes, doing this by consing strings is not a good idea, it will
>> slow things down and cause a lot of GC.  It is best avoided.  Thus my
>> questions above.
> I'm not sure how "convert syntax tree to elisp" compares to "consing
> strings". I would certainly expect it to cause a lot of GC.

If the GC is the worry, we can use a function which encodes the
buffer using a given coding-system and returns a malloc'd array of bytes.

>>> It's stored in a buffer-local variable. I haven't measured the memory
>>> they take. Memory is released when the tree object is garbage-collected
>>> (it's a `user-ptr').
> Is it an elisp structure (or accesible from elisp)? Have you written
> code that traverses it to provide faces and indentation?

According to https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter/issues/222 the
parse tree takes around 10 times the size of the source text.  At least
that's for tree-sitter's own parse-tree; not sure how that relates to
emacs-tree-sitter's yet.


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-02  2:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-31 17:07 Reliable after-change-functions (via: Using incremental parsing in Emacs) Tuấn Anh Nguyễn
2020-03-31 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01  6:17   ` Tuấn Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-01 13:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 15:47       ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-01 16:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 17:55       ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-01 19:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 23:38           ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-02  0:25             ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-02  2:46             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-04-02  4:36               ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02 14:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 15:19                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-03  2:49                 ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2020-04-03  7:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 18:11                     ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-03 18:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04  0:05                         ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-03  8:11                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-03 11:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 11:09                       ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-03 12:44                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 11:21                       ` John Yates
2020-04-03 12:50                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02  5:21             ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02  9:24               ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2020-04-02 14:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03  2:27               ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-03  7:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 17:45                   ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-03 18:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04  0:04                       ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-04  7:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02  4:21           ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02  5:19             ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-02  9:29               ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-02 10:37             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-02 11:14               ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02 13:02             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 15:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 15:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 14:34               ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-03-29 18:46 Using incremental parsing in Emacs (via: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 19:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-29 19:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:29     ` Reliable after-change-functions (via: Using incremental parsing in Emacs) Yuan Fu
2020-03-30 14:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 15:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 17:14         ` Yuan Fu
2020-03-30 17:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 18:43             ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-30 18:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 19:02                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-03-30 19:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 19:21                     ` Yuan Fu
2020-03-31  3:56                       ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 13:16                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 13:36                           ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 14:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 15:37                               ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 15:58                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 16:18                                   ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 17:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01  0:57                     ` Stephen Leake
2020-03-30 19:42                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 19:27                 ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31  2:24           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31  3:10             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 13:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 14:31                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 15:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 15:45                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 17:16                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 17:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 19:35                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01  2:23                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 15:11                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 15:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 17:10                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 17:19                       ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-03-31 17:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:42                         ` 조성빈
2020-03-31 19:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:47                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 18:48                           ` Noam Postavsky
2020-03-31 19:02                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 19:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 19:50                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01  2:28                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01  3:49                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01  4:14                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 13:47                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 14:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 14:55                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 15:16                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 15:59                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 21:48                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 22:29                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 14:23                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 16:17                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-02 18:25                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 14:40                                                   ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-03 16:10                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 13:52                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-01 14:10                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 15:27                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 15:44                                           ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-01 16:03                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 21:21                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-02 14:09                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 18:03                                                 ` 조성빈 via "Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-02 18:27                                                   ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-02 19:39                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01 15:22                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 11:06                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 11:26                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 14:14                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 14:41                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 15:04                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 15:38                                                   ` Richard Copley
2020-04-04 11:27                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 12:01                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 12:36                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 12:40                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 13:02                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 16:09                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 16:38                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 16:45                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 17:22                                                       ` Richard Copley
2020-04-04 17:50                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 18:29                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 18:56                                                           ` Richard Copley
2020-04-04 20:36                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 17:36                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 17:47                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 18:02                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 23:01                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 14:25                                                               ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-06 19:55                                                                 ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-04 17:29                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 17:38                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 17:57                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 16:13                 ` Alan Third
2020-03-31 17:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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