From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 0161c9d 1/2: Load all generic-x.el modes unconditionally Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:00:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20210209160550.18823.10795@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210209160551.832FB20AD1@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87o8gti2ln.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg65jffx.fsf@gnu.org> <83im71j96z.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23263"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 23:01:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9b4w-0005tf-83 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 23:01:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51902 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9b4v-0005R1-83 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:01:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44188) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9b3W-0004g6-M4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:00:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:48944) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9b3R-0005ou-Tn; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:00:22 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 658F580055; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 17:00:16 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EB23880712; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 17:00:14 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1612908014; bh=H86TFvKE7S5zSt+hDz7R6y9jBzAV6ABrlsZK1DYtyxQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Q8RGrqSwgp0i3fK+aK3Ox/6wWbObEW8NYjasUtTJgIQ/E9wA8Aasvy1hQNFeEbQYQ IdgH0iX1tQCpdkPo4tNvy4Ypk/YL5HVOGtACiM537P8v46o2g0TeZ5DbHuvV7RNd2e vNWsVhDIxUYlkO//P0NBoNrnOQtiu/mgQ4x8BkTd5SQqyAb8w1EHXxfLXbuXunGLG8 bxxynxe+qxlGtn+xsBGOU983XqMknUFUMFM0+sx67VxFxk8leXyhVb9RXd1X3058h3 kdzSgDQ4d8vLAlzKBFEepxpXjxUUheE9waQlsvjO8ASOtZEXeR+j6MOIHzMzSdSbeE c/iDraWXo4V0g== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.41.47]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA2EB12027C; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 17:00:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83im71j96z.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 09 Feb 2021 22:08:20 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264250 Archived-At: > I don't see a discussion, just an opinion that some variable should go > away. Can't we remove it without activating all the modes? [...] > How did you intend to handle the backward compatibility issues? I'm not sure which kinds of backward compatibility issues you're thinking of. AFAIK none of the functions defined in `generic-x` overlap with other packages, so there shouldn't be any conflict or backward incompatibility. What am I missing? Stefan