From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master cc29fab3a6: Redisplay "invisible" frames that are actually visible on modern X Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:14:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: <167204147913.11300.799159655252309055@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20221226075759.AAF44C00613@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <83o7rp0xn1.fsf@gnu.org> <83fsd023nx.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26920"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 27 18:15:25 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pADXw-0006l7-23 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:15:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pADXC-0007J2-Vz; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:14:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pADXA-0007Ia-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:14:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pADX9-00050g-6W; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:14:36 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5F57A442F48; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:14:33 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DD8A7442F91; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:14:31 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1672161271; bh=yJUOftGc3ltiTbJeW8YnePNBt2c5CHlQKEUgSIPDjhk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=gkbL4+yVYiCHbDZKwLT6hryDB4bwiWw8/4YZZfLwQ9g6wMbD/SaWkDAKA/zdAtrvM XVaL7gADBH8F7JIyC+V1YME/kfvHNa+BNFSqZcGkux8UAdZWIJ8RnWWW7WsxzBQefK oJPYvvDlaMZlTjNdqNPMANMxg2MOlCgkOCKpgYzIsdKXc0APtJIH3AJBLojKn1SmML KQmriKF7UeJwVU4OzAXl7LXqU57kdrnxi873TbuX1evU9CS8UBAsbtzP4YUstB5RWy U+wudDuHlwQ9kQZm8YbEgYo/LCCboZrkB38hcL0YFD8JFd8GqV+wzdgTrEEA0FhnhK 0NC4rKlgnYDZw== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.200.228]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2C771206CB; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:14:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83fsd023nx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:48:50 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301974 Archived-At: > You'd be surprised how visible can "invisible" frames be, on some > modern desktops. Maybe Emacs should work harder to make them "more invisible" (e.g tell the GUI that it now has a ridiculously small size (without changing the Emacs-facing size, of course))? Stefan