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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: pkg-autoloads.el vs. pkg-loaddefs.el
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 15:43:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy1729h1d.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87msniqhel.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:39:46 +0000")

>>> AFAIU, `package-activate' (and thus `package-activate-all') calls
>>> (package-activate-1 pkg-desc nil 'deps).
>> The reasoning is that this won't be called after some `org*.el` files
>> have already been loaded.
> I have seen configs with package-activate-all being not the first thing
> in the config.
> Some configs even do package loading in early-init.

I currently consider these cases to be "the user's mistake".
Maybe we should provide some alternative for "late activation" which
does pass the `reload` argument?

We don't do that by default in an effort to try and keep startup time
under control and also because reloading is a hack which works only
partly and can even have unpredictable effects, so it's really much
better to try and avoid it in the first place.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-18 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-20 12:56 pkg-autoloads.el vs. pkg-loaddefs.el Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-14 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-06-17 13:45   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-17 14:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-18 16:00       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-18 17:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-18 17:39           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-18 19:43             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2024-06-18 20:03               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-18 20:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-19 15:32                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-19 15:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-19 16:22                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-19 20:35                         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-20  5:01                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-20 15:33                           ` Ihor Radchenko

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