From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:35:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvwtxe6cnf.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x5mzyarfl5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:18:46 +0200")
> If the time stamps for the clicks indeed come from the X server, then
> Kim's timed scheme would probably not be very susceptible to system
> load/traffic congestion effects.
The problm with it is that it goes against what we're trying to do, which is
to get Emacs's UI in line with "what non-Emacs users expect".
I.e. such users will just do a simple click and expect it to follow
the link.
Adding a message saying "please keep the button pressed longer if you want
to follow the link" is really not much better than adding a message that
says "use mouse-2 if you want to follow the link".
And if you add to the equation the extra code and conceptual complexity of
using timing-dependent information, I find it ends up a loser.
> After all, we have the same problem with recognizing double-clicks.
Sure. But users have wanted double-clicks, so we gave it to them.
Users's aren't asking for variable-duration clicks. OTOH users are quite
used to not being able to move cursor into a link by just left-clicking on
it. It may annoy them at times, but it seems to annoy them less than having
to use mouse-2.
Stefan
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2004-10-19 9:04 ` finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Kim F. Storm
2004-10-19 15:31 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-19 16:12 ` Drew Adams
2004-10-21 13:56 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 14:47 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-21 16:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-23 4:48 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 12:42 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-24 12:59 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-24 19:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-24 20:06 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-25 13:13 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 13:10 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-24 19:59 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-26 9:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26 17:05 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-10-24 22:31 ` Stefan
2004-10-25 7:22 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-25 11:47 ` Stefan
2004-10-25 12:51 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-25 13:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-25 14:52 ` Ralf Angeli
2004-10-25 15:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-25 15:18 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-25 15:35 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2004-10-26 9:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-26 9:25 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-26 12:23 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-26 18:55 ` Drew Adams
2004-10-26 21:06 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-26 21:54 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-27 2:15 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-27 12:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-27 13:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-27 13:16 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-27 14:51 ` feature freeze (was: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text) Reiner Steib
2004-10-27 15:15 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-27 15:15 ` feature freeze David Kastrup
2004-10-27 17:29 ` finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Drew Adams
2004-10-28 14:05 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-27 17:35 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-01 14:40 ` Karl Eichwalder
2004-11-01 15:44 ` Stefan
2004-11-02 14:08 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-02 18:08 ` Karl Eichwalder
2004-11-02 21:51 ` Miles Bader
2004-11-02 23:41 ` Drew Adams
2004-11-02 23:53 ` Stefan
2004-11-03 1:27 ` incrementor-decrementor commands and bindings (was: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text) Drew Adams
2004-11-03 7:51 ` incrementor-decrementor commands and bindings (was: finger-pointercurser " Stephan Stahl
2004-11-03 15:26 ` Drew Adams
2004-11-04 9:51 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-03 1:34 ` finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Miles Bader
2004-11-03 9:31 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-11-03 9:26 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-11-03 10:20 ` David Kastrup
2004-11-03 17:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-03 9:11 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-11-03 17:03 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 17:34 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 10:49 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 12:24 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-27 13:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-27 13:18 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-28 2:27 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-27 7:22 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-10-27 7:35 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-27 12:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-28 6:24 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 10:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26 9:05 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 8:31 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-25 10:01 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-25 12:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-26 9:05 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 13:13 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 14:09 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-21 14:42 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-21 15:21 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-21 19:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-21 20:09 ` Drew Adams
2004-10-21 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-21 22:09 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-22 9:10 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-22 12:45 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-22 15:03 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-22 15:56 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-17 19:27 Drew Adams
2004-10-18 11:19 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-18 13:59 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-07 13:16 ` Per Abrahamsen
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