From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gtk scroll bar deficiency Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:13:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <466D8F06.6010906@gnu.org> <466DA866.4080907@gnu.org> <466E348A.3070207@swipnet.se> <466E99C8.10201@podval.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181661241 29326 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2007 15:14:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sam Steingold Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 12 17:13:58 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hy848-0001NP-7q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:13:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy847-0003LA-Ls for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:13:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy845-0003L4-A9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:13:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy842-0003Ks-Va for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:13:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy842-0003Kp-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:13:46 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts40.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.97] helo=tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy842-0001IN-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:13:46 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([70.55.144.170]) by tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070612151346.NVSP1542.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home> for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:13:46 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D62CB803E; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:13:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <466E99C8.10201@podval.org> (Sam Steingold's message of "Tue\, 12 Jun 2007 09\:04\:08 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72698 Archived-At: > why would I want that?! > to have an empty screen? This is the kind of wrong question that leads to the arbitrary braindead limitations in current GUI toolkits. The right question would be: why would I want to prevent someone from doing that? after all, nobody forces you to do it. Stefan