From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Strange change in backquote expansion Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:36:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1187627784 31070 80.91.229.12 (20 Aug 2007 16:36:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, Andreas Schwab , stefan@xsteve.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 20 18:36:22 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1INAEo-0001an-45 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:36:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INAEn-0007UE-OP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:36:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1INAEk-0007T0-7K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:36:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1INAEi-0007Qj-Lt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:36:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INAEi-0007QL-Fy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:36:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1INAEe-0008Dk-T3; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:36:13 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E122CEFA4; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:36:11 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA773FE0; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7727C6C0D2; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:36:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 20 Aug 2007 11\:16\:16 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:76842 Archived-At: > On a related issue, the Lisp manual says that the old syntax with an > extra level of parens around the args of backquote and comma is still > supported for compatibility with versions before 19.29. > Since 19.29 was 12 years ago, I think it is time to delete the > documentation of that compatibility feature. Does anyone object? I believe the old syntax is still used in some of the bundled packages, not to mention the unbundled ones. I think if we want to ever get rid of the old syntax, we'll have to do something stronger than just declare it obsolete. Maybe breaking it is the solution, but maybe something halfway would be preferable. Stefan