From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7408: Linux patchutils: Development of the project? Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:39:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1213200935.4147.62.camel@cyberelk.elk> <87pqu59d16.fsf@picasso.cante.net> <87mxp8kth3.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290111277 20088 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2010 20:14:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jari Aalto , 7408@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 18 21:14:32 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PJAsF-0002Zc-MU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:14:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57814 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PJAsE-0004wr-Ud for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:14:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60274 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PJAs9-0004tu-2s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:14:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PJAs7-0000lf-L0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:14:21 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58849) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PJAs7-0000lU-J9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:14:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PJAWb-0006Xe-2C; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:52:05 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:52:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7408-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7408.129010988225075 (code B ref 7408); Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:52:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7408) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2010 19:51:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PJAVt-0006WO-3W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:51:21 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PJAVq-0006W7-G5 for 7408@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:51:18 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id oAIJuLLM006661; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:56:21 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F1A8DA82B3; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:39:37 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87mxp8kth3.fsf@gmail.com> ("=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?="'s message of "Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:47:04 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3683=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:52:05 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:41733 Archived-At: > Is the explanation (I'm not familiar with the history) that at the time > cl.el was added there was no dolist in core Emacs, so there was no > perceived need to call it dolist* as in other similar cases (mapcar*, > defun* etc)? (In that case my sincere disdain would go for the person > who introduced dolist into subr.el later without addressing the naming > clash.) AFAIK subr.el's dolist and dotimes are 100% compatible with CL's definition. Of course, if you want to call `return' in there, you'll need to define `return', which is only provided by CL so you need to (require 'cl). I'd reconsider it only if someone can show me reasonable code that works without error both with CL loaded and without CL loaded and yet returns different results. Stefan