From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoyingly cautious make rules Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:48:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83ehwnc97k.fsf@gnu.org> <4ED917E2.7020807@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED94331.7030702@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED98EED.5020301@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED99DB7.1040005@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322891333 8122 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2011 05:48:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 05:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andreas Schwab , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 06:48:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RWiSu-0004sR-5Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 06:48:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59791 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWiSt-0000PR-P6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:48:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38157) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWiSs-0000PM-0j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:48:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWiSr-0001Rf-7b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:48:45 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:6275) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWiSp-0001RM-8d; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:48:43 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAHW32U5Ld/3d/2dsb2JhbABEDqoegQaBcgEBBAFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIgatkOLIQSIK5oTg3pV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,288,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="150616783" Original-Received: from 75-119-253-221.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([75.119.253.221]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 03 Dec 2011 00:48:41 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BD17A660D4; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 00:48:40 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4ED99DB7.1040005@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:55:35 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146453 Archived-At: >>> date afterwards. So either way, the maintainer-mode dependencies >>> do not help and are not needed. >> I don't think I can agree with this statement until it gets refined to >> more specific dependencies. > Here's the complete list of dependencies enabled by maintainer-mode: > configure: configure.in aclocal.m4 > aclocal.m4: m4/gl-comp.m4 > lib/Makefile.in: aclocal.m4 lib/Makefile.am lib/gnulib.mk > autogen.sh runs autoreconf, which updates aclocal.m4, autogen.sh is expected to be run once after checking out a new tree. After that, "make" should take care of rebuilding configure if/when needed, so the dependencies all seem right. > configure, and lib/Makefile.in (in that order). So, > after autogen.sh is run, the dependencies are already > satisfied, and "make" does not need them and they do > not help the build process. Indeed in this situation they don't help but neither do they hurt. And they do help when you run "make" after configure.in was modified. Stefan