From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12406: 24.2.50; frame parameter `menu-bar-lines' and `menu-bar-mode' Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:17:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <54FF7233AE2E4AF39FEC5B688D67341E@us.oracle.com> <50504320.7030908@gmx.at> <95E595BA09D247A9BD45F52A304A471B@us.oracle.com> <5050A571.3060809@gmx.at> <2642D1C71B064D30A09DABF179962841@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347506301 17793 80.91.229.3 (13 Sep 2012 03:18:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12406@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 13 05:18:24 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TBzwa-0006lW-Az for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 05:18:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40456 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBzwW-00012B-Ll for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:18:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33324) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBzwU-00011m-2C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:18:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBzwT-0007CO-6h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:18:13 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBzwT-0007CI-3I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:18:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBzxF-0000l3-Uj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:19:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12406 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12406-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12406.13475062882849 (code B ref 12406); Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:19:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12406) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2012 03:18:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58298 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBzwO-0000ju-D3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:18:08 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:15916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBzwL-0000jl-6A for 12406@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:18:06 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09FpYjU/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIgcBboJkEQDozOBWIMF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="198217758" Original-Received: from 69-165-136-212.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.136.212]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 12 Sep 2012 23:17:14 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2099C59445; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:17:13 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <2642D1C71B064D30A09DABF179962841@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:33:46 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64219 Archived-At: >> Because this way we'd have a consistent interface: The presence of a >> frame parameter would signal "leave this frame alone". > That's inconsistent with the convention that absence of a frame > parameter is equivalent to its presence with a nil value. It is > similar to proposing that we give some special signification to the > absense of a key in an alist, as opposed to a key with value nil. Agreed. That means, all frames should have a `menu-bar-lines' parameter, set to `default' in most of them. Stefan