From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7842: acknowledged by developer (control message for bug 7842) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:25:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8739owi45n.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87zjzfpx5j.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87txpnpwqb.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <83fw178ah5.fsf@gnu.org> <87sj50m4hu.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <83bobn51dz.fsf@gnu.org> <87d2vtce1h.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <83mwuwn3b3.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9qwmm8y.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361553955 11690 80.91.229.3 (22 Feb 2013 17:25:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7842@debbugs.gnu.org, jrollins@finestructure.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 22 18:26:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U8wNw-00084I-1X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:26:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51880 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8wNb-0001z4-Fq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:25:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46436) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8wNU-0001TD-Ra for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:25:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8wNO-0005UX-Vh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:25:44 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8wNO-0005UT-SW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:25:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8wOj-0001zi-TX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:27:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7842 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 7842-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7842.13615540087627 (code B ref 7842); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:27:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7842) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2013 17:26:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44576 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8wOW-0001yy-Dx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:26:48 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:45038) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8wOU-0001yr-SQ for 7842@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:26:47 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFsoXXp/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSQuh3AGwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFYFIJA X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFsoXXp/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSQuh3AGwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFYFIJA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="1981876" Original-Received: from 108-161-117-233.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.161.117.233]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 22 Feb 2013 12:25:22 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 84D016BF3D; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:25:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83a9qwmm8y.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:55:25 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71654 Archived-At: >> and already separates stdout from stderr. > stderr is put on a file when separated. Still, it disproves the statement that "It is impossible to separate the standard output and standard error streams of the subprocess". >> There's nothing unreasonable in requesting the ability to put >> call-process's stderr output inside a buffer. We could easily do that >> with a simple Elisp wrapper (which uses a make-temp-file internally). > The OP seems to object to a solution that would use files, or else he > would have used make-temp-file himself. He mentions 4 problems with the current situation: > * The first touches the disk, the second does not. Providing a wrapper that does make-temp-file doesn't solve this point, indeed. > * The first requires me to pick a temporary file name that does not > collide with an existing file on disk, the second does not. > * The first requires me to cleanup a temporary file, the second does > not. > * The first is 45 characters long, the second is 13. But the wrapper would solve all those 3 remaining points (because the wrapper would pay this cost, not Jameson). Stefan