From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18494: 24.4.50; defclass creates undocumented *-list-p function Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:20:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87a95xvfuy.fsf@tromey.com> <87bnqavaju.fsf@engster.org> <541DDB56.1020000@gmail.com> <541E0EEB.4020603@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411316500 9419 80.91.229.3 (21 Sep 2014 16:21:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 16:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18494@debbugs.gnu.org, Tom Tromey , David Engster , Eric Ludlam To: Eric Ludlam Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 21 18:21:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XVjtD-00080k-7f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 18:21:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40123 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVjtC-0002Hr-Qs for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:21:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38755) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVjsx-00025m-BM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:21:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVjsp-0000r4-NV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:21:15 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:56048) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XVjsp-0000pn-Kl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:21:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVjsk-0002iU-8c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:21:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 16:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18494 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18494-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18494.141131641210359 (code B ref 18494); Sun, 21 Sep 2014 16:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18494) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Sep 2014 16:20:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47612 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVjrw-0002h1-1F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:20:12 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:62301) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XVjrt-0002gr-Ce for 18494@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:20:10 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWHAcFCws0EhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqg0wh X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWHAcFCws0EhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqg0wh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="90477383" Original-Received: from 69-165-145-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.145.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 21 Sep 2014 12:20:08 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2FA2A640EC; Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:20:08 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <541E0EEB.4020603@gmail.com> (Eric Ludlam's message of "Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:34:03 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:93579 Archived-At: > I recall back in the day trying something like (list foo) and not getting it > right so I just wrote a predicate. I'm not that familiar with the nuances > of typep, but if there is now a typep built into Emacs, Not any more than before: there was CL's `typep' and now it's been renamed to `cl-typep'. > EIEIO will need to remove it's local copy of an old typep, and I could > certainly convert over to using something list (list foo). I use > those predicates mostly with typep. Could someone explain (and show) to me in detail how/where these foo-list-p are used in relation to EIEIO? Stefan