From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:56:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20150411231042.GA25541@odonien> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428811002 20435 80.91.229.3 (12 Apr 2015 03:56:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 03:56:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Vasilij Schneidermann Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 12 05:56:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yh90Z-00012J-2t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 05:56:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44370 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yh90Y-0003ab-4S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:56:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yh90M-0003aJ-QW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:56:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yh90H-0003FU-R9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:56:18 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:36679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yh90H-0003FQ-NC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:56:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t3C3uBHd007939; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:56:12 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C4C99AE11C; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:56:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20150411231042.GA25541@odonien> (Vasilij Schneidermann's message of "Sun, 12 Apr 2015 01:10:42 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5273=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5273> : inlines <2686> : streams <1421023> : uri <1904641> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185318 Archived-At: > initialization step in startup.el, completely bypassing issues like init > code possibly getting added multiple times to the file and the general > annoyance as this cluttering cannot be disabled at all and can happen at > every installation) and involves more work. We discussed this already. There's the issue of configuring package.el before loading it and/or before calling package-initialize. Stefan