From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22107: 25.1; Wrong docstring for this-single-command-keys Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:16:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <838u54dgg2.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvtkb882.fsf@gnu.org> <83io47blbq.fsf@gnu.org> <83egeu9lze.fsf@gnu.org> <83eget8gos.fsf@gnu.org> <83poyd6m1b.fsf@gnu.org> <837fkk6qyq.fsf@gnu.org> <83vb8367jj.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449980242 23573 80.91.229.3 (13 Dec 2015 04:17:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 04:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22107@debbugs.gnu.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 13 05:17:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7y5t-0003eB-Il for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 05:17:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53893 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7y5s-0001fF-TC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:17:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36604) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7y5n-0001en-5R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:17:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7y5m-0007Ow-DR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:17:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:42229) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7y5m-0007Or-An for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a7y5m-0004Yr-6z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:17:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 04:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22107 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22107-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22107.144998021017512 (code B ref 22107); Sun, 13 Dec 2015 04:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22107) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2015 04:16:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49831 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a7y5Z-0004YO-Vn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:16:50 -0500 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:57122) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1a7y5Y-0004YF-2t for 22107@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:16:48 -0500 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id tBD4Gg3d025195; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:16:43 -0500 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5573DAE06F; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:16:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Sat, 12 Dec 2015 15:34:44 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5518=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <5518> : inlines <4104> : streams <1553306> : uri <2100547> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:109915 Archived-At: > Stefan, can you summarize an argument for why it should change in 25.1? Because it's better to get rid of all the C-u special case handling and make C-u be a normal command so that GNU ELPA packages can implement their own form of prefix command. The immediate need for the new behavior is to be able to implement C-x 4 and C-x 5 as prefix argument (rather than keymaps) so as to be able to get rid of all the foo-other-window and foo-other-frame and the concomitant need to find key bindings for them. Stefan