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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: font-lock-syntactic-keywords obsolet?
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 09:53:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvwplkynz9.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20160620110332.GC3166@acm.fritz.box

> What about the text _before_ the change, should that become out of date
> (as it does in CC Mode)?

That's for the major mode to decide, and inform syntax.el about it via
syntax-propertize-extend-region-functions.

And indeed, syntax-propertize-extend-region-functions doesn't mark the
previous text as out of date.  It only causes it to be re-propertized
when we end up re-propertizing the changed text.

This part of syntax.el is not heavily exercised, tho, because it's very
unusual to have changes at POS affect the syntax of text on
earlier lines.

[ In CC-mode you tend to do that in places where I wouldn't.  E.g. for
  raw-strings you propertize the raw string's opener differently if the
  string is properly closed or not, whereas I wouldn't have done so
  and most other major modes where similar issues can show up don't do
  it the way you do in CC-mode either.

  Obviously, you like that kind of behavior, and maybe you're right
  that it's superior.  I tend to dislike it, but maybe I'm just biased
  because I dislike the implementation cost behind it.  ]

>> No: as soon as you need to look at the `syntax-table' property, the
>> parts marked as "out of date" will have their outdated properties
>> removed+reapplied, so you'll be sure to get uptodate properties at that
>> time.
> This sounds like black magic.

Laziness is a standard tool in programmer's toolbox.


        Stefan


PS: by the way, I was much too busy at work, so I had to procrastinate
a little, and I think I have a very rough version of cc-mode using
syntax-propertize-function working.




  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-20 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 10:18 font-lock-syntactic-keywords obsolet? Andreas Röhler
2016-06-17 22:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18  7:03   ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-18 15:07     ` Noam Postavsky
2016-06-18 17:12       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-18 18:13         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18 19:41           ` Noam Postavsky
2016-06-19  7:12             ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-19 13:21               ` Noam Postavsky
2016-06-19 14:03                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-19 14:36               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-19 15:12                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 15:18                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 15:26                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 15:52                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-19 15:53                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20  2:58                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20 11:57                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 13:37                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20 13:50                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 16:00                           ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-20 18:15                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 23:33                               ` John Wiegley
2016-06-20 18:55                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 20:22                               ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-19 15:27                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-19 15:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-19 12:31         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 13:31           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 13:48             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 14:59               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 15:07                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 15:18                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 15:22                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 15:34                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 15:50                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 17:15                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-19 17:55                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-19 22:20                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 10:22                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 11:50                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 14:50                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 15:02                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 13:39                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20 10:58                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 11:12                                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-20 12:15                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 14:52                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2016-06-20 15:57                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 17:23                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2016-06-20 18:58                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 15:25                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 16:45                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 18:12                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 19:15                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 20:08                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 20:32                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-21 14:40                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-21 21:06                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-21 23:50                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-23 16:30                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-27 11:48                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-29  0:30                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-30  9:52                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-07-10  2:01                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-10 22:11                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-07-11  0:06                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-11 17:20                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-07-11 22:44                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 22:45                                       ` John Wiegley
2016-06-20 23:30                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20 23:56                                           ` John Wiegley
2016-06-21  0:26                                           ` John Wiegley
2016-06-21 15:26                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-21 16:09                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-21 18:34                                               ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-21 18:42                                                 ` John Wiegley
2016-06-21 18:52                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-27 11:50                                                     ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-21 19:23                                                   ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-21 18:49                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-21 21:05                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-21 21:17                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-21 16:28                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20  0:06                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20 11:03                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-06-20 13:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-06-20  4:33                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20  5:05                               ` John Wiegley
2016-06-19 23:59                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20  3:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20  3:20                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-06-20  3:47                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-20  6:40                 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-06-20  3:08             ` Stefan Monnier

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