From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:11:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <97DA7804-F647-4A1D-B8E0-AFFE7A324C64@gmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="21719"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , Yuan Fu , Emacs developers , ndame To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 25 05:12:04 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBEa-0005YF-Iz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 05:12:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57108 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBEZ-0000E5-I2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35340) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBE1-00087K-Gu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:11:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBE0-00034D-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:11:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:45772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBE0-000341-7K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:11:28 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CC41B100F6F; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CE2F9100CBC; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:11:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1587784280; bh=fEf3iJbjDddyFwFN4Xn28Er+aDEz84OIfAb971g56cw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=HHbQ9bA0kjw1G+b/zb9xbsLBCch4/s69BF62I8wcI5l+LRgEuLN8nQ7JcHl36z/YD /ninw94CxxzNr45dxMZ69Lm3hvYxoi63IZJBqLD1AdJKuZ3ewaIRw8ZqeZzU7WCSii E2q7gRfeZaZhUcHTBAzncBk8YVkMYM92gJb1Qs12iWWSYySNGHRc6kOuth6rkVluWU pL/b5Lhsn32mR77q3aCQdM7TUxVSIKhdzKAZuCZRNcRgGkFZZNqnI2rNK40MqSubXa Nr3aAGVY88JpRAQGhVbb4U7Tnat1v4XpUEk+Nx0cmJhWUJs+Xc/GJnIPjNefQWeroG +HECvs3y1cpwA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.241.114]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B44E120396; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:11:20 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Fri, 24 Apr 2020 18:47:35 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/24 22:48:09 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247734 Archived-At: > It is worth saying that while the process of getting copyright > assignment is clunky, it is not insurmountable. However, the process of > working out whether someone has copyright assignment already is a total > pain. I'm lucky enough to have access to fencepost.gnu.org where the `copyright.list` file is kept, so I can look it up fairly easily, but for those who aren't so lucky it's indeed a problem. > It should be possible to check automatically whether commits coming in > from any git repo are from someone who has assigned copyright. That > would, at least, remove the hassle in the case where the papers have > been done. I think for privacy reasons we can't distribute `copyright.list` itself. But we could maintain a list of people who have signed the paperwork, built from publicly available information, i.e. from the Git log of emacs.git and elpa.git. While not being on that list wouldn't be a guarantee that paperwork is needed, it would still be helpful, I think. Any taker? Sefan