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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Oleh Krehel <oleh@oremacs.com>
Subject: Re: [elpa] main 8f4cb59: * elpa-packages (counsel, ivy, swiper): Auto-sync.
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 10:48:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvwnudn1l0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eegn18rr.fsf@tcd.ie> (Basil L. Contovounesios's message of "Wed, 10 Mar 2021 12:40:56 +0000")

>> - change the versions after merging rather than before (as mentioned
>>   above).  It's an easy low-tech solution, but it involves N times more
>>   work if a single .git upstream version leads to N downstream releases.
> O(2N) is still O(N) though, so not much worse than the status quo.

;-)

>> - as discussed earlier, we could have each subpackage have the complete
>>   upstream Git and only create the subpackages via `elpa-package`
>>   filtering out the other files.
> That would be nice to have in general, but it doesn't solve the
> inefficiency when multiple packages are bundled from the same repo.

I don't understand the "when ..." qualification, since my suggestion is
only meaningful in that precise case.  As for the inefficiency: as long
as the upstream is not enormous and that we don't have too many packages
following that model, it's bearable.

> Unless, of course, we either stop caring about the inefficiency (run out
> of hair to pull?) or significantly complicate the Git dance, e.g.:
> https://stackoverflow.com/q/600079/3084001

No subtree: I really mean the whole Git branch being duplicated
will-nilly for each subpackage.

>> - if there's really only one version number shared by all the
>>   sub-packages, I'd tend to argue that maybe there should only be one
>>   package ;-)
> I tend to agree ;).  Not my call to make, though, and that ship is
> either getting smaller or sailing away.
>> - split the upstream repository.
> Not my call to make.

Of course it can also be a mix of the two and it can be done in bits and
pieces: every bit helps.  So maybe we can start by lobbying the upstream
for one specific subpackage we identified as being a good candidate for
either a separate upstream repository or for having the subpackage be
merged with another.

>>   a "don't look for commit in history" (after all, that's what the old
>>   GNU ELPA script used to do: it used whichever commit was
>>   HEAD when we discovered that the `Version:` "had changed" (meaning
>>   the version in HEAD corresponds to not-yet-built file)).
>
> The bump-after-merge works better for me personally, as I don't have to
> worry about when to push which commits.

I know what you mean: that's exactly why the new code goes to the
trouble of checking the commit that modified the `Version:` line.
It's all too common for me to want to bump the version right before
installing experimental new code.

> I guess another alternative to :version-map would be Git tags?
> E.g. using an N.N.N-elpa scheme or something like that.

Fetching tags from upstream is problematic (because we have a single
elpa.git repository for all packages), but we could use tags manually
pushed to elpa.git, yes.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-11 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2021-02-25 14:33   ` [elpa] main 8f4cb59: * elpa-packages (counsel, ivy, swiper): Auto-sync Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-25 15:12     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-25 16:24       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-25 16:40         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-09 22:17         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-09 23:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-10 12:40             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-11 15:48               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-03-11 17:12                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-11 17:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-11 19:25                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-11 22:47                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-11 22:59                         ` Basil L. Contovounesios

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