From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finalizing 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:24:55 -0500 Message-ID: References: <837cx8cey0.fsf@gnu.org> <83357vauh5.fsf@gnu.org> <837cx6a8me.fsf@gnu.org> <83357ua6ja.fsf@gnu.org> <83zga28ra8.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27021"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org, larsi@gnus.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 28 23:25:48 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pLtds-0006p5-0l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 23:25:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pLtdE-0002Em-4S; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:25:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pLtdB-0002Ed-H4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:25:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pLtd9-0002Yb-OS; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:25:05 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1946D808B2; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:25:00 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3DA7780261; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:24:58 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1674944698; bh=CUDzslgHGclve2z8tcOcIZ1wGxtlOXcaeFO2wvVENX8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=JAvIDgNDaGCoDymG7OI7AU0QtbaTwQUCl+UMAaesETyRl6ayxnPEjHDI+RlO91tmK UmsuiwXYwD2K9kON0E400yeroBH8MH5ZRsbeiNKWDgE3GvEqUweSNbRGxQLIrj4KvY IYuQbzg0Zdm6RMe7RmHcY1uWH4HXFp0OB65XY+4GnF2S6St6UQfMDP41Ak1y07YQfT 7uNkXqQG8d1qiaCnE3vlbugxPm5aUNRgO8z35cCIdqESj8mrVT9IKZsE0F/c3z/Zi5 l4OD+zw+j4FuGLchlBzeNJ1h+Jx8r2E37LDrkmZ0xy+KwN7gyvvjrR51xGsGMFR1wS pbUVeOpxWswUw== Original-Received: from ceviche (unknown [207.162.20.112]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EAAE2122631; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:24:57 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83zga28ra8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:09:35 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302731 Archived-At: >> >> And we do have a solution: pregenerate the trampolines. >> > So you are saying that the "prevent writing trampolines" part of >> > inhibit-automatic-native-compilation is not needed? >> >> I'm saying it's only needed temporarily, until we fix our compilation >> system so trampolines are pregenerated. > > Can we decide that "temporarily" we will write trampolines even if > native-compilation was disabled, i.e. go back to what we had in Emacs > 28? I don't understand the question: the context of what I'm proposing is when there is no writable eln-cache in $HOME, and I'm proposing to solve the problem by writing them to `temporary-file-directory`. Stefan