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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 67249@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#67249: 30.0.50; `same-frame` equivalent for `display-buffer-alist`
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:09:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvwmubrkx7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69387717-1eaa-6019-0000-4c95c61e1bc3@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:14:38 +0100")

>>> So a (same-frame . t) entry would simply auto-translate to a pair of
>>> (reusable-frames . nil) (lru-frames . nil) entries?
>>
>> [ Hmm... I'm curious how you interpreted what I wrote to reach
>>    that conclusion.  ]
>> No, I meant the opposite: the users who want to override
>> `reusable-frames` and `lru-frames` need to add all three
>>
>>      (same-frame . t)
>>      (reusable-frames . nil)
>>      (lru-frames . nil)
>
> Suppose an application calls ‘display-buffer’ with a non-nil
> 'same-frame' alist entry.  If we want an existing action function to
> obey that entry and we do not want to rewrite that function, we could
> have 'display-buffer' add a (reusable-frames . nil) (lru-frames . nil)
> pair to the alist.

We could, but we could also define the semantics of `same-frame` to have
no effect on frame re-use (it would actually be closer to the current
semantics).  If so, it'd be best to find another name for it along the
lines of "no-new-frame".

>>> We could add a 'display-buffer--same-frame-action' variable.
>> I don't really know what that suggestion means.
>> The `--` suggests it'd be some internal detail of `window.el` whereas
>> I thought we're discussing the externally visible API and semantics.
> It could do what I meant above - translate 'same-frame' internally.

What is "it"?  `display-buffer--same-frame-action`?
Without knowing where you'd use such a variable, it's hard for me to
guess what you mean by that.

>> I don't see why you think it'd require any change in existing code: the
>> ones who set `same-frame` get what they ask for.
> You already would change the existing 'display-buffer-pop-up-frame'.
> If you think that change is sufficient, I will obviously stop thinking.

I suspect it might be sufficient, but it would deserve a better name so
users don't get the wrong impression that it will affect reuse on
other frames.

So you think the patch I sent is actually more-or-less acceptable
(modulo documentation and finding a better name)?

>> I'm not talking about `display-buffer` choosing a minibuffer-only frame.
>> I'm saying that when the selected-frame is a minibuffer-only frame, it's OK
>> to ignore the `same-frame` request.
> When the selected frame is a minibuffer-only frame, 'display-buffer'
> usually tries to think of 'last-nonminibuffer-frame' as the selected
> frame.  So probably 'same-frame' should do the same.

Sounds like this is compatible to my suggestion that it's OK to ignore
`same-frame` when the selected frame is a minibuffer-only frame.

> But all I can do is to hint at inconsistencies in your proposal.

Not sure what's the inconsistency there.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-21 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-17 21:41 bug#67249: 30.0.50; `same-frame` equivalent for `display-buffer-alist` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-18  8:36 ` martin rudalics
2023-11-19  3:52   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-19 10:35     ` martin rudalics
2023-11-19 14:57       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-20  9:15         ` martin rudalics
2023-11-20 13:33           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-21 17:14             ` martin rudalics
2023-11-21 19:09               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-11-22  8:02                 ` martin rudalics
2023-11-22 16:03                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-23  9:59                     ` martin rudalics
2023-11-24  2:52                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-24  9:05                         ` martin rudalics
2023-11-24 13:51                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-24 16:25                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-25  9:00                               ` martin rudalics
2023-11-25 14:36                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-03 19:06                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-04  7:23                                     ` martin rudalics
2023-12-09 22:29                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-09 22:40                                         ` Drew Adams
2023-12-09 22:52                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-09 23:17                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-12-10  6:00                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-10 16:28                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-10 21:46                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-12-10  5:53                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-10 17:16                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-11 17:13                                             ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-11 22:14                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-16 18:16                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-25  9:00                             ` martin rudalics
2023-11-25 14:37                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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