From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: FIXED!! Re: Clarification of eval-after-load - Patch to the Elisp manual. Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 11:00:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148569232 13155 80.91.229.2 (25 May 2006 15:00:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 15:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 25 17:00:31 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FjHK1-0005XJ-6T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 17:00:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FjHK0-0004QZ-RI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 11:00:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FjHJp-0004QB-9x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 11:00:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FjHJn-0004Py-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 11:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FjHJn-0004Pv-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 May 2006 11:00:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.97] (helo=tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FjHOS-00014l-Ud; Thu, 25 May 2006 11:04:57 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([70.53.193.49]) by tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060525150004.BDEN24981.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@localhost>; Thu, 25 May 2006 11:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 629FC8258; Thu, 25 May 2006 11:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Alan Mackenzie In-Reply-To: (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Thu, 25 May 2006 14:36:08 +0000 (GMT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55280 Archived-At: > I've taken out the bit "In general, well-designed Lisp programs should > not use this feature [eval-after-load]". Given that there's around 70 > e-a-l forms in the Emacs source, it is probably not true. It also makes > us a sitting duck for malicious wits wishing to denigrate the quality of > our code. So I've taken it out. I disagree here. `eval-after-load' is and will remain a hack. A very convenient one when you need it, but not something reliable. Stefan