From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version' Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:05:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0705101124r72000f78xdf05d18ca815ca57@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178829930 13610 80.91.229.12 (10 May 2007 20:45:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 20:45:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Ken Manheimer" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 10 22:45:25 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HmFVs-0004Pb-2z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HmFdD-00065d-8r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:52:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HmFdA-00062b-6C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:52:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HmFd7-000629-O3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:52:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HmFd7-000626-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:52:53 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts40.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.97] helo=tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HmFVl-0008BB-FV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:45:17 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([70.55.144.218]) by tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070510204516.HGTE1630.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@ceviche.home> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:45:16 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 90201B54DB; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:05:41 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <2cd46e7f0705101124r72000f78xdf05d18ca815ca57@mail.gmail.com> (Ken Manheimer's message of "Thu\, 10 May 2007 14\:24\:39 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70778 Archived-At: > I like the idea of an incremental release mechanism for Emacs. But it > needs to be done right - I think XEmacs network-based packages update > system doesn't quite do it, though it might be a step in the right > direction. I'm not sure if unbundling packages can be a help, but as a developper, I like the fact that I can go and change a bunch of packages in-step without worrying about backward compatibility (actually, I do have to worry about it for those packages which are maintained by people who also distribute it as a separate package and I find it to "constrain my style"). So I'd rather keep the monolithic package, but just have a stable branch which is fairly liberally open to contributions, so long as those are non-disruptive. I guess by "non-disruptive" I mean that the patches are either "obviously safe" or have an obviously limited impact so that even if they introduce bugs, these bugs should have a limited impact. I'm thinking of bugs such as incorrect indentation or highlighting, as opposed to a crash or a data corruption. Also it's important those bugs be fixable in a rather straightforward way: i.e. no installation of a patch with non-trivial dependencies such that reverting it might be painful. Stefan