From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Introducing 'unrecognized and 'ignored Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:25:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <17EA38DF-BCC1-4565-8510-5DD10DD667E3@mac.com> <20071229114551.GD9794@thyrsus.com> <20080102021907.GA15494@thyrsus.com> <200801020445.m024jWU2008538@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200801031805.m03I5SBf022748@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200801050901.m0591mQj011970@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <20080105143415.GG30869@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199571989 16921 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2008 22:26:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 22:26:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@snark.thyrsus.com, Dan Nicolaescu , emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, harsanyi@mac.com To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 05 23:26:48 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBHTX-0006EG-A6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:26:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBHSz-0003Mm-Uf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:26:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBHSv-0003MR-Kh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:26:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBHSs-0003LR-17 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:26:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBHSr-0003LJ-KH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:26:01 -0500 Original-Received: from 206-248-175-132.dsl.teksavvy.com ([206.248.175.132] helo=ceviche.home) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBHSh-00067D-PM; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:25:54 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 21073B40FE; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:25:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20080105143415.GG30869@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Sat, 5 Jan 2008 09:34:15 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86243 Archived-At: > Dan, there are parts of the VC design about which I feel some > territoriality, but this is absolutely not one of them. The > performance of the VC-Dired code is not where I want it to be, your > arguments seem sound, and you seem well motivated to do a good job. > If you think you can rip VC-Dired out and replace it with a better and > faster ewoc-based display layer, you may do so with my blessing and > support. Note that there's a middle-way as well: use dired-mode, but fill the buffer manually from the list of files returned by the backend commands (probably using code from ls-lisp.el to properly format each lines), so we don't run `ls' or directory-files at all, but still preserve everything else. Stefan